1. #1061

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aranes
    Sweet gear. Only thing i've to add is:
    Get 10stats on your chest and Icewalker on your boots. EJ states that it's better EP then 16 Agi.

    http://armory.wow-europe.com/charact...efist&n=aranes
    Spec seems fine, gear seems pretty decent (nice shoulders, been wanting them to drop for ages :<).

    One thing I might change is the gemming. It is generally a loss to gem the socket bonus for blue sockets. General rule of thumb is to socket 1 10+ stats gem in your best blue socket, all your yellow either AP/Haste, AP/Hit, 20Haste or 20Hit (which ever the spreadsheet tells you is best) and obviously your reds with 40AP.

    With that kept in mind, I'd look to move the 10+ stats gem to your chest (replacing the AP/Stam) and socketing the rest as mentioned above. Other than that, Id say 9/10 for your guilds progress. Good luck in ICC!

  2. #1062

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...unner&n=Yanluo

    K i took your advice and i gemmed ArP, i have a baseline of 48% arp and when my trinket proc's i'm at 96%. and from what i read arp is a nice start for combat because most our damage comes from melee attacks that are effected by armor.

    (the rogue above me is the one that said i should do this, so i hope it works)

    Oversized Avatar removed - Cilraaz

  3. #1063

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by lordlight
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...unner&n=Yanluo

    K i took your advice and i gemmed ArP, i have a baseline of 48% arp and when my trinket proc's i'm at 96%. and from what i read arp is a nice start for combat because most our damage comes from melee attacks that are effected by armor.

    (the rogue above me is the one that said i should do this, so i hope it works)
    Even tho your gear is quite decent your stats are really poor, especially attack power, i personally think it was a mistake for you to go hard arpen cap, maybe only go arpen with red gem slots and leave others with atp or atp-haste, overall i'd say 7/10
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...rg&n=Brutalone

  4. #1064

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by brutalone
    Even tho your gear is quite decent your stats are really poor, especially attack power, i personally think it was a mistake for you to go hard arpen cap, maybe only go arpen with red gem slots and leave others with atp or atp-haste, overall i'd say 7/10
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...rg&n=Brutalone
    Pretty sure that even with the poison changes, 51/18/2 is superior to 51/13/7, though by less than before. Work on your expertise. I understand that it isn't the end all with mutilate anymore, but it is still a viable stat to try and cap, though replacing all your gems for expertise is a bad idea. Maybe shoot for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50001 but then your hit would be far above the cap....its a tough situation.

    Your nightmare's tear is in a terrible spot...put it in your helm, and put two Stark Ametrine's in your boots. Or just Quick King's Amber if you are into that, but I lean towards Starks.

    Do you find that you ever use rupture? If you do, you are doing it wrong, unless it is a 1cp one to kick off HfB. My personal choice is to lose Blood Spatter and take Fleet Footed. Then remove your Rupture glyph and take Tricks of the Trade to boost raid dps.

    Change a few gems, change your spec, reglyph that one glyph and you should be set. Overall, not terrible, but spreadsheet sometime to maximize your gemming/speccing.

    Do not rate me...find someone who got skipped over and do them.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Detheroc&n=Smacklepuff

  5. #1065

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Rogue above me I rate as no fun. C'mon It's just a forum you have nothing to fear :P

    Anyhoo...my rogue isnt TOO gd, I'm PvP but cant find a arena partner & I just cant be bothered with PvE 8) http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...el&n=Fogsworth

    GNOMES 4 LIFE

  6. #1066

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Combat PvP sounds like fun. You should get a healer partner or go mutilate and get a feral/ret partner.


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...lbane&n=Eldien
    Haven't bothered to raise my 2s after boosting rele wep for my friend and my 3s is dead.. still PVP for life

  7. #1067

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Some slack enchant and slack gem in the ring. Still need more gear to get more rating ^^
    6/10

    Mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...nivarr&n=Mudor

  8. #1068

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    8/10
    pretty nice gear. nevertheless, two things to improve:
    change the +10stats gem in your legs with 40AP and put the +10stats gem in your helmet. The socket bonus is better. It would increase your agi by 2.

    I'd change the foot enchant.you don't need extra crit with your gear due to the critcap. agi would be better for raw dps but I'd prefer 15stamina+movement speed. increases your dps A LOT on many encounters.

    here's my link:http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...aerar&n=Zogrim

    gotta say, that I might change the bewe gemming into AP due to my critcap with ICC gear.
    Would be a 35 DPS improve atm (spreadsheet)

  9. #1069

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by panda911
    Pretty sure that even with the poison changes, 51/18/2 is superior to 51/13/7, though by less than before. Work on your expertise. I understand that it isn't the end all with mutilate anymore, but it is still a viable stat to try and cap, though replacing all your gems for expertise is a bad idea. Maybe shoot for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50001 but then your hit would be far above the cap....its a tough situation.

    Your nightmare's tear is in a terrible spot...put it in your helm, and put two Stark Ametrine's in your boots. Or just Quick King's Amber if you are into that, but I lean towards Starks.

    Do you find that you ever use rupture? If you do, you are doing it wrong, unless it is a 1cp one to kick off HfB. My personal choice is to lose Blood Spatter and take Fleet Footed. Then remove your Rupture glyph and take Tricks of the Trade to boost raid dps.

    Change a few gems, change your spec, reglyph that one glyph and you should be set. Overall, not terrible, but spreadsheet sometime to maximize your gemming/speccing.

    Do not rate me...find someone who got skipped over and do them.
    About my glpyh, i've been too lazy to replace it and am slowly moving my orcish arse to auction house to get fok one.
    My gemming is good, i've got more then enough haste to be able to go for more atp.
    About the chest, i've seen it drop, was at 470hit rating at that time, so didn't bother to bid on it at all, i'd take it now if i saw it drop because even tho it'd take me over the hit i would gain some stats with it.
    My spec is ok also, i've tried 51/18/2 and it lowered my dps for 300 or so before nerf so i don't find myself conftrable with that spec and the one i'm using is serving me good enough to be topping meters so i'm not planning on changing it at all.
    Thank you for trying to help tho bud

  10. #1070

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zogrim
    8/10
    pretty nice gear. nevertheless, two things to improve:
    change the +10stats gem in your legs with 40AP and put the +10stats gem in your helmet. The socket bonus is better. It would increase your agi by 2.

    I'd change the foot enchant.you don't need extra crit with your gear due to the critcap. agi would be better for raw dps but I'd prefer 15stamina+movement speed. increases your dps A LOT on many encounters.

    here's my link:http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...aerar&n=Zogrim

    gotta say, that I might change the bewe gemming into AP due to my critcap with ICC gear.
    Would be a 35 DPS improve atm (spreadsheet)


    I like this rogue. nice gear and nice gems/enchants. not much i can say about you or try to help you out looks like your doing a good job at keeping yourself in line lol. ill give this rogue a 9.5. outa 10. the other .5 i left off cause your combat =) lol. I<3 ya still but i prefer muti.


    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...lp&n=Chalkline

  11. #1071

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    9/10 Couldn't find anything wrong with this rogue, Although i may of missed something haha.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...agrand&n=Kempo

  12. #1072

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    you sir have LOTS of hit (and precision) and LOTS of expertise as well, but it may be a matter of some gearing issues. perhaps your mut set is better but you logged out as combat so... def seems like a gear issue 6/10

    EDIT checked again saw some missing gem slots and no enchants in many pieces so... perhaps log out in mut lol
    if not 4/10

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Arithsinence
    gogo myturn

  13. #1073

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by xDavidTChang
    you sir have LOTS of hit (and precision) and LOTS of expertise as well, but it may be a matter of some gearing issues. perhaps your mut set is better but you logged out as combat so... def seems like a gear issue 6/10

    EDIT checked again saw some missing gem slots and no enchants in many pieces so... perhaps log out in mut lol
    if not 4/10

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Arithsinence
    gogo myturn
    First, at Kempo.. I almost cried when i saw ur offhand weapon. Enough said.

    @ david.. your gear is great and even though you are under expertise and hit cap your talents should put you at around the bare minimum. 9/10

    here i go
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...sher&n=Leprocy

  14. #1074

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Over capped Expertise with Gems for it. after 26/26 its not worth anything
    Unenchanted MH, If you're going for AP Gemming go with crusher to gloves, and AP or Icebreaker to boots
    Purple gem in the shoulders. t9.232 is kinda lacking, specially since the 245 badge shoulders are a good deal better. Should go for 1 Nightmare Tear(+10 to all stats) to activate your meta and the rest orange/red

    Lastly Herkumi War Totem would probably have been a bigger upgrade for badges considering it is absolutely awesome and your trinkets are a little lacking

    4/10

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...d&n=Ttamyarrum

  15. #1075

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    There's pretty much nothing to complain about this one.
    Enchants and gemmings are good, gear is good, everything seems to be just right
    9/10
    aand here's mine:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...reaver&n=Virnu

  16. #1076

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    7/10

    your gear is immaculate except your are well under where you should be for Arpen Cap. You need 1400 and you have, only 531 passive and 678 from NES putting you at 1209. Remember, Faerie Fire and Sunders are NOT calculated into the Arpen calculations for you. Your Arpen is calculated after Faerie Fire and sunders. You may want to consider getting a pair of maces for an added 10%

    There is a ton of gear out there with plenty of Arpen to help you cap out. You have a lot of mixed and matched combat/mutilate gear and it seems you cannot decide which way to you want to play with.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Uldaman&n=Dror

  17. #1077

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    yeah, kinda halfway through regemming to ap, agi/hit, and ap/hit, according to a wildly shifting Spreadsheet

  18. #1078

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattsy518
    yeah, kinda halfway through regemming to ap, agi/hit, and ap/hit, according to a wildly shifting Spreadsheet

    LOL i agree and it is very annoying

    Just watch your crit cap carefully, if you ever find yourself in trouble of reaching that cap - there is a piece of gear out there that will take care of it!

  19. #1079

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Modan&n=Poklix

    As for the rogue above me... I doubt I'm the one that should be rating anyone...lol...

  20. #1080

    Re: Rate The Rogue Above You.

    Quote Originally Posted by panda911
    Holy hell. Lose some hit and expertise bro, seriously. You are WAY, WAY over expertise capped right now. The chest piece you are using has to be a downgrade from whatever you had previously...it's expertise literally has 0 effect on your DPS. Whats with this gem half agi/half AP crap. Go all AP. I do not envy your current gearing situation...
    The over-expertise is to line me up to lose Vengeance of the Forsaken, putting me at exactly 26 expertise. The gemming, well, I'm not regemming old gear for a .01% increase, it can wait for new drops.

    By the way, I'm the #2 Combat rogue on my server, to return your smugness.

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