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    Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    I know there has been several posts about this topic, but one more cant hurt right? Blizz had stated that giving palidens more healing spells would make the class over the top in pve healing, which is probably true. BUT, what if its just a single spell, with a fairly large cd? I think that would be all I want in 3.2. That and the retri changes to actually happen (probably not).


    I was thinking something along the lines of this:
    "Holy combustion" (bad name i know) - 15 second cd. Heals your target and everyone in a 10 yd? radius for (around the same as holy shock)? Instant cast. This would not be to op because of the 15 second cd, and it would help keep up melle dps near the MT you are healing.



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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    An aoe heal like the one you are suggesting would be grossly overpowered on fights like XT-002 and Sapphiron where I, the ret paladin, am normally 1st in healing.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Pallys heals just as good, as other healing classes..It just depends on the fight.. If you add a new spell, you mess up the balance. Rather make abilitys better, than adding new abilitys..

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by chantu
    Pallys heals just as good, as other healing classes..It just depends on the fight.. If you add a new spell, you mess up the balance. Rather make abilitys better, than adding new abilitys..
    Paladins have only one spell they can use when moving, and it has 6 second cooldown, so paladins are hurting in any high-movement fights. And Blizzard themselves knows that paladins have too few healing spells which makes the class feel dumbed-down and rather tiresome to heal with.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by gobgob34
    and it would help keep up melle dps near the MT you are healing.
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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by GayGirlie
    Paladins have only one spell they can use when moving, and it has 6 second cooldown, so paladins are hurting in any high-movement fights. And Blizzard themselves knows that paladins have too few healing spells which makes the class feel dumbed-down and rather tiresome to heal with.
    I like the idea of getting rid of the Holy Light glyph and adding something similar to holy shock. Giving the instant cast the aoe ability. That way on the heavy movement fights you can do a little more healing than just the shock and an instant flash if it crits. Say maybe 3-5 targets get healed for 50% of the holy shock amount, and the aoe effect can crit as well. Dunno, just spouting off thoughts, but something aoe focused on an instant ability is what is needed imo, but nothing powerful enough to say "OMG Paladins are the new AOE healing class!"

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    JoL

    If you want heal, just go attack the target... That's the way it should be, no more slackers.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by chantu
    Pallys heals just as good, as other healing classes..It just depends on the fight.. If you add a new spell, you mess up the balance. Rather make abilitys better, than adding new abilitys..
    What Balance?

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Reroll another class.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Blizzard wont give a sh!t even if everyone stopped playing Holy paladin.

    4 Arena seasons and 3 MLG tournaments saw "0"(Zero) None, Holy paladin in 2v2 or 3v3.

    After the first season in Wrath they killed the one and only build that let a holy paladin compete in 2v2.

    Holy paladin have no chances at getting spells that even resemble anything the other classes have just because blizzard hates them.

    They would rather give the 2 NON healing specs of paladin healing abilities and increase the other healing classes roles to fill in as MT healers, with better single target healing, than give Holy paladin any ability to do any other healing assignment other than a single target healer.
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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElitehunterDS
    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41106
    use the power of the glyph
    Good 1 m8... but to say it usefull, take ticket for time machine and come back to past, some 2-3 month and then you can say "this glyph is good"

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by shockpally
    Blizzard wont give a sh!t even if everyone stopped playing Holy paladin.

    4 Arena seasons and 3 MLG tournaments saw "0"(Zero) None, Holy paladin in 2v2 or 3v3.

    After the first season in Wrath they killed the one and only build that let a holy paladin compete in 2v2.

    Holy paladin have no chances at getting spells that even resemble anything the other classes have just because blizzard hates them.

    They would rather give the 2 NON healing specs of paladin healing abilities and increase the other healing classes roles to fill in as MT healers, with better single target healing, than give Holy paladin any ability to do any other healing assignment other than a single target healer.
    You know there EVERY class have some spec that didn't show up in MLG.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    I doubt Blizz will give pallys an aoe heal. Instead they'll probably come up with a gimmick heal or another long cooldown heal. Something like "if the target is below 50% hp, the heal will jump to another ally below 50% up to 3 times" or "after three consecutive crit heals everyone in your arua heals 1% of their hp". I could see them doing a 2 min cd spell that would split the healing done evenly among the party/raid for the next 10/15 seconds (barring LoH). Something you'd use but nothing to get excited about; enough to get you off Blizz's back for a while.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    @OP:
    No, just no.

    Also, to those who think pallies can only heal tanks you are wrong. Flash of light and holy shock of short/no cast time for a reason..... I know several pallies that are just as good raid healing as they are on the tank.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    You can have chain heal if I can spam 20k healing waves and never go oom.
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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    I would like another long CD heal like LoH for AoE healing IF ANYTHING. But tbh, we're main tank healers, always have been and probably always will be. So live with it or go reroll a holy priest
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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    hmmmm..... thanks for input i guess. I thought it would be a reasonable new spell, and not grossly overpowered since it had a 15 second cd, but i guess i was wrong.
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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Mabey add a glyph or change the current one so that instead of healing done to others heals beacon target, some percentage to keep it balanced of healing done to beacon target is spread among the 2-3 lowest health people in range. That way you can stay focused on the tank, dont have to worry about trying to get a heal off on a raid member and if you get sniped the tank dies.

    Thats the really big problem with beacon isnt it? its great for 5 mans or anything you can solo heal, but once you add another healer into the mix up to the 5-7 for heavy damage situations the effectiveness drops fairly swiftly.

    But yeah, like the shammy was saying, we cant have super amazing regen and an aoe heal because that would make us too good, as it stands right now the reason we can have such awesome regen through int and crit stacking increasing illumination and DP returns is because we can heal 2 targets at the most at one time add in an aoe heal with a cooldown under 20-30 secs and there is no reason for a raid healers to not be 50-75% holy pallies with a disc priest for shield and resto druid for hots on the tank.

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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Holy aura

    Your heals heal for 10% to the raid.



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    Re: Giving Palidens a SINGLE aoe heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming_rain
    Holy aura

    Your heals heal for 10% to the raid.



    AoE Heeelz?
    that would be ridiculous, 20k holy lights healing 24 other people in the raid for 2k? thatd be like 70k healing every crit and youd never oom

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