Seal of Veng or Command in 3.2 pvp

[ArchAngelz13]

ive only manage to get on the PTR for a short time and test out vengence a little... i quite liked the damage i saw and the sustained damage on healers

anyone made any testing with seals on the PTR ? kinda curious to see what other peoples views on the damage and changes are, as well as what would be a good choice in 3.2

[vidae]

ive only manage to get on the PTR for a short time and test out vengence a little... i quite liked the damage i saw and the sustained damage on healers

anyone made any testing with seals on the PTR ? kinda curious to see what other peoples views on the damage and changes are, as well as what would be a good choice in 3.2

I've heard (and read) about 7k judgement crits and the damage with Vengeance being pretty baller, but I have yet to go Ret on PTR. I've been on, and I'm sure I'll test it out soon, but I've just been messing around with tank stuff.

[Eversor]

I've heard that SoC still sucks balls on PTR. So... it's Seal of Vengeance for PvE and PvP.

[Luthius]

Unfortunately, I have still didn't try PTR and most likely won't try it out as long as I'm getting the same errors while downloading it.. most likely connection problems.

But from how I see it (Personal Not Tested PoV) I think Seal of Vengeance/Corruption would be the one to use in both PvE and PvP. As far as I see it, I don't think that they'd do anything to seal of command, since Blizzard is trying to get rid of our Burst in anyway possible hence the silly Seal of Command damage.. most likely it's a leveling up seal nothing more/less.

But for you guys, who tested PTR and Seal of Vengeance/Corruption. Blizzard once made a statement of making Holy Vengeance/Blood Corruption DoT as Physical DoT, can you please confirm that it's no Longer magic debuff (Aka Undispellable/Cleansable and not removed by Cloak of Shadows) ?

[Bareno]

From messing with an ret pally premade in pvp, seems like SoC would be the seal to use when you look to instagib an cloth wearer, and SoV when you suspect the fight will last longer than ~6-7 seconds.

[Sesshoumaru]

From messing with an ret pally premade in pvp, seems like SoC would be the seal to use when you look to instagib an cloth wearer, and SoV when you suspect the fight will last longer than ~6-7 seconds.

Wonder why wasting time writing those stuff.
Prolly to make some people waster theirs reading it.

[Luthius]

Wonder why wasting time writing those stuff.
Prolly to make some people waster theirs reading it.

And notice that he's a Death Knight..

[Sesshoumaru]

And notice that he's a Death Knight..

kkkkkk its funny... aw man I am just getting tired of discussing those stuff
its like talking to some freaking trolls or whatever..
they just dont understand anything ppl write..
oh well.. life goes on

[Hypnotik]

been playing as ret on the ptr and SoV is the way to go, would give you the dmg in which they differ but i havent obtained that data though im sure its quite noticable

[Ronark]

SoV is the seal of choice........ HOWEVER, if you spec for SoV you cannot use Imp HoJ nor DS/G.

[Ronark]

I'd only use SoV on a cleave setup, im sure the dot will break repentance just like Righteous Vengeance. if i played on a team that uses CC id prob use SoC, its probably not worth putting a dot on a target when you divine storm for a little extra dot dmg. then again i havent tested either, if SoC does worthless dmg youll have to use SoV just to compete.

It does break CC.

And JoCommand does pitiful damage, worse than Live.

[Shuji1987]

I've heard that SoC still sucks balls on PTR. So... it's Seal of Vengeance for PvE and PvP.

This is true, SoV for PvE and PvP. It's not worth talenting SoCommand.

From messing with an ret pally premade in pvp, seems like SoC would be the seal to use when you look to instagib an cloth wearer, and SoV when you suspect the fight will last longer than ~6-7 seconds.

Retard.

[Ronark]

This is true, SoV for PvE and PvP. It's not worth talenting SoCommand.

Retard.

SoC is still work the talent point: Its useful when grinding quick mobs and for AE trash fights that last shorter than 1 minute.

[Crovax]

HOWEVER, if you spec for SoV you cannot use Imp HoJ nor DS/G.

Of course you can. You just don't take SotP.

[Ronark]

Of course you can. You just don't take SotP.

Without SotP, You'll see worse Seal damage from SoV than SoC, and the same Judgement damage that SotM does on Live.

[Sfb15]

3.2 i'm going to have 2 specs... 51/20 with SoC spec'd and then my holy bleeds spec for SoV and RV both spec'd

[Winstan]

in arena you'd wanna use SoC id say, u start doing Divine storm and applying dots to everything near you, your gonna get booted pretty quick from the team.

even in 2's working with another CC class u want no dots on anything.

What they need to do is give SoC back its auto crit on stunned targets for it to really be worthwhile

[Ronark]

in arena you'd wanna use SoC id say, u start doing Divine storm and applying dots to everything near you, your gonna get booted pretty quick from the team.

even in 2's working with another CC class u want no dots on anything.

What they need to do is give SoC back its auto crit on stunned targets for it to really be worthwhile

Not auto-crit, but rather double damage

[Luthius]

Uh guys can someone confirm my question regarding the physical DoT component?

Is it dispellable by dispelling mechanics or Cloak of Shadows?

Thanks in advance,

[iktankniet]

the discription says its melee, but the dmg is holy. and holy dmg is magic...