Horde always own WG in my realm for days on end....this is crap anyone else thinks this needs to be severely changed?
Horde always own WG in my realm for days on end....this is crap anyone else thinks this needs to be severely changed?
Unfortunately, until the people at Blizzard take time to quit explaining why they are right and anyone who disagrees is wrong, they are not going to even hear everyone speaking out desperately trying to warn them the ship is sinking.the problems driving players from WoW aren't content or the age of the game, the problem is how the game experience and design philosophy are being undermined by Blizzard's hubris and greed.
And what change would that be, exactly? An "I win" button?Originally Posted by Baygon
(-.-)Originally Posted by Flaks
It depends on server.
On mine, for example, ally almost always have it. Despite we horde being outnumbered about 4 to 1, we still manage to get it a few times per day.
It's a numbers thing. Even with the cap on potential participants, the faction with the higher number will a.) have more people in general queing, b.) have more 80's queing and c.)if a faction consistently loses, it lowers morale, which gives people less reason to want to que anyway, diminishing the numbers even further
Yes, I play Horde and we have hundreds more wins than Allys.
This isn't unfair, we really are just better. Or well it used to be that, now it's just that not many allies choose to queue for WG until they're buffed up from the last patch change, since they seem lose almost 10/10 times otherwise.
I honestly say that I expect to win WG each time I go there and my expectations are usually met.
On my server Horde had it last week like whole week, we won it 1st time at 2 am Sunday night (yes technically Monday earlllly morning).
The funny thing is that Blizz just introduced this balancing thing that should help, that if a faction holds WG for too long, the losing faction starts with all vehicles or whatever.
But as someone said, we are outnumbered tenacity 5+ all the time, morale down, less and less people queue.
Blizz is/did try and help, but for now it ain't working still. On some realms it would really take a I win button unfortunately.
Welcome to world of cuddlecraft.
If one faction can't win WG, the faction dosn't deserve the loot, easy as that. VoA is a PvP reward, not only a loot pinata.
reduce the numbers that can go, a lot of people with a) shitty computers or b) not in america tend to lag out a bit in the fortress, so why do i want to go and spend my time smashing my keyboard trying to log in... i since bought a new computer
Reducing the numbers will also keep things slightly more even as well on servers like Blackrock where Ali are outnumber 4-1. Friends on proudmore said ali always hold it there, so that would give horde a chance to hold it
make it smaller,, just add a few more rows of mountains in :P
Is WG completely unfair? Yes.
Is there 1 faction in my realm that always wins WG? No.
The faction who is attacking always wins.
I've won one battle when we were defending.
That's not entirely true, one side can have the most amazing and hard-working team ever but still get steamrolled from a sheer number disadvantage.Originally Posted by Dethric
There are a lot of servers where it is imbalanced(mostly due to population) there was a list compiled in another thread comparing servers.
Europian servers:
Date |
Servername
| Alliance defended
| Horde defended
| Captured
17-03
Ahn'qiraj
2091708-
21-03
Anachronos
6377641177
18-03
Balnazzar
2748781320
18-03
Boulderfist
1171721959
20-03
Bronzebeard
1658131980
18-03
Daggerspine
2748781321
17-03
Dentarg
761926867
17-03
Doomhammer
5095261348
18-03
Dunemaul
1597871411
21-03
Earthen Ring
8598441021
17-03
Elune
1114279-
20-03
Emeriss
822024827
20-03
Eredar
14713131159
18-03
Grim Batol
2201821685
17-03
Thunderhorn
6692611401
17-03
Skullcrusher
731311-
18-03
Twisting Nether
841462-
American servers:
Date |
Servername
| Alliance defended
| Horde defended
| Captured
17-03
Andorhal
23603153
19-03
Cho'gall
5862-
18-03
Demon Soul
18730633
18-03
Drak'Tharon
1035221221
17-03
Emerald Dream
21248405
19-03
Garona
504461117
21-03
Nordrassil
83629756
21-03
Proudmoore
84514661
19-03
Runetotem
101540150
18-03
Shu'halo
72605872
17-03
Skullcrusher
10638-
So if my server is a 1:0.02 ration of horde to alliance or alliance to horde i don't deserve to capture WG because they outnumber me 50 to 1? and yes there are servers with that huge of a difference in populations.Originally Posted by Dethric
Originally Posted by Rasputine
On my server, Alliance (my faction) only wins on Tuesday's when VoA resets and the raiders want to get in after their resets. But then after that, for the rest of the week, it is controlled by horde. This may be because they outpopulate us by a TON, but i think its just that Alliance have given up. Then when Sunday and Monday roll around Ally wins it off and on throughout the day. sooooo.....idk :
"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."
the more you lose it, the stronger your buff gets. I think its after something like a change over and 5 defends, you end up being able to spawn machines after 1 kill and get a large health/damage increase... I've seen a relatively small group decimate a full side on my server due to these buffs. It helps balance the win/loss ratios..... If you cannot cap at least 1/10 voa's, you have some serious stupid trying to cap voa on your server.
Quite often, the difference between an idiot and a genius is simply a matter of success rate.
I wanted to post a long and elaborate post explaining how Wintergrasp actually favors consecutive losers, but instead, I think this quote needs to be brought up:
All is fair and love in war.
Now, how did you think exactly? People not in America? Isn't all players playing on US servers in South or North America? Or do you mean that EU/Chinese/Australian players lagg because they are not in America? Huh?Originally Posted by assilley
On topic:
On my server WG is mostly dominated by Horde. However, the instant vehicles + tenancy usually allows the Alliance to win WG at least a few times per week.
Or the defenders annihilate the slow moving siege vehicles before they can get out of the shops or they take all the shops over due to their overwhelmingly superior numbers on servers with server imbalance and don't even dare suggest that tenacity does anything useful because it doesn't.Originally Posted by Gilgemesh
Originally Posted by Rasputine
On both of my servers Wintergrasp usually changes hands at least a couple of times per day.