World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour

[Ramis]

I just hope they dont scap reforging too...:/

If they do that everything that was cool when the announced Cata Back in 09 will be gone.

That they made guild leveling different is good because you dont have scenarius like "lol your guild skills suck make..you better join our guild".

I think path of the titans was killed for balancing reason..just like new dances ROFL

[Critterbot]

Guild reputation? Wow...

[bbr]

Path of the Titans is gone
The whole Path of the Titans idea has been removed from the game. It will no longer rely on Archeology or on any kind of PvE/PvP progression and instead Blizzard will just introduce a new type of glyphs: Medium Glyphs.

Medium Glyphs will add a "fun factor" to abilities, and it wouldn't be surprising to see something similar to the Fortification or Breakthrough glyphs first previewed during Blizzcon 2009. (But probably not these exact glyphs, a lot of stuff happened since last year)

Guild Talents are gone
The guild talents are gone and your guild now gets extra bonuses depending on its level. There are 25 levels and each level will automatically reward with more cool stuff. The leveling process remains unchanged and your guild will gain experience through PvP, Dungeon and Raid progression, questing, etc ...

Guild currency has also been removed and rewards will just be "unlocked" after you reach a specific level or complete a guild achievement. Once a reward is unlocked, members will be able to purchase it with gold. Some of the rewards include guild tabards, mounts, heirlooms, and it looks like you will finally be able to have a guild tabard on your mount. (Just like the Argent Tournament banners)

New members of a guild won't be able to buy everything directly, they will have to contribute to the progression of the guild before they can access the top rewards. Each time a player helps towards the leveling he will gain reputation with the guild, the best rewards will require players to be exalted with their guild before they can buy it.

Archeology will be less important
With the Path of the Titans gone, Archeology will become a "true" secondary profession and you won't really have to level it anymore. However it will still be used to let you get cosmetic/optional items, get more information on the game's lore, and ultimately it looks like we can expect rewards similar to fishing. (Nothing mandatory, but you'll be happy when you actually find something)

Information gathered from other sites:[list][*]You will find two types of items: Common Artifacts will give you more information on the lore of a race, and might be used in some kind of collection game. Rare items will give you usable items, most of them will be cosmetic but some of them will have actual effects. (Details on Wowhead)

Kind of lame, I was rather looking forward to the path and archeaology.

If they put arch on the same level as fishing and cooking, that's still fine though.

But... RIP guild talents,, those were cool.
Very lame that they got removed.

[The Glitch]

Everyones complaining about Heroic DM and SFK not being in at release, But forgive me if I'm wrong but were we ever told it they would be in at release? Weren't we just told it would be part of cataclysm? Things get put in throughout the expansion in content patches, why are people so surprised by this? >.>

Also loving the changes, PotT's from the little info we had about it, sounded confusing, and probably a must have for all characters, so very grindy in my eyes.

Guild talents, I think would just cause guild drama, and heck we don't need anymore of that, so I'm thinking this was a change for the best.

And I definitely agree that Inscription just didn't cut it when they introduced it in WotLK. Just never felt like a finished Profession to me. So perhaps the "fun" Medium Glyphs will go towards making this a proffession that will seem worthwhile.

All good!

PS. had major problems getting onto MMO-champ today I know your having problems, but I'm having withdrawls! been 3 days now that I've not been able to read MMO-champ without alot of problems

[Pseudosavior]

Aww... But... PotT gone? I was really looking forward to it. Why, Blizzard, why?

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But... RIP guild talents,, those were cool.

But they aren't going anywhere. Guild talent trees are the ones that are scrapped.

[Schlock]

Kind of lame, I was rather looking forward to the path and archeaology.

If they put arch on the same level as fishing and cooking, that's still fine though.

But... RIP guild talents,, those were cool.
Very lame that they got removed.

So they pulled a lot of the revamped stuff that actually made this an expansion, and changed it into an overgrown content patch? Yay

[homerunhomer]

Good game Blizzard, you just removed something else that was holding me to keep playing in Cataclysm. Path of the Titans seemed like a fun way to make your character slightly different from the rest, as well as making the new profession meaningful.

Medium glyphs. Wonder if Kotick came up with that one himself?

Would have preferred it if Blizzard stopped removing anything from the game (past or future) that meant players had to think about anything. This better be one breathtaking expansion if they want players (myself included) to continue playing.

Oh, just seen about the rated battlegrounds change. So now I have to put together a team too? Seriously...

[Frozenbeef]

What's a 5 man random battleground? Never heard of it.

Its when 5people on a realm join as a premade then join the random bg queue

[Deleted]

Path of the Titans was indeed nothing more than an expanded glyph system. If so, then why just not use the system that was already in game and expand it? It's nothing but a logical decision.

[soulfringe]

This is really heartbreaking. Especially since blizzard hyped it up so much. This just seems like a total cop out. I am reminded of this from a recent game called Warhammer. Whatever happened to those super awesome interactive cities of theirs ?


At least they aren't trying to sugar coat it with a "don't worry, we will definitely get it later". Hate being lead on. But still, these things were a great spice to look forward to in Cataclsym. Without them, it just makes things taste more bland.

Meanwhile I am wondering how seasonal changes will effect the classic titles in terms of permanence.

[nsupra27]

Man, I hope they don't pull the Dance Studio bullshit with Heroic DM/SFK.

[xalenthas]

So yet again they remove anything that might possibly take someone more than 10 minutes to achieve or might possibly give those that work together some advantage.

[Sinshin]

No more pets from archeology?QQ

[Tanthalus]

now a question - with so many new quests being added - will it be possible to level 1>85 in azeroth only ? without going near outlands or northrend?

[Worgoblin]

Path of the Titans was indeed nothing more than an expanded glyph system. If so, then why just not use the system that was already in game and expand it? It's nothing but a logical decision.

Logic has no place here!

Now... I will continue with my whining and crying like a child!

[Deleted]

Man, I hope they don't pull the Dance Studio bullshit with Heroic DM/SFK.

no, they won't, because it's nowhere as much work to make DM and SFK hc than to make so many animations for the Dance Studio. they will release it when there's literally nothing to do ingame.

[Deleted]

Man, I hope they don't pull the Dance Studio bullshit with Heroic DM/SFK.

Doubt it. Heroic dungeon system is already in-game, so it's nothing more than lack of time.

[Deleted]

Are they scrapping features just to release the expansion sooner? Activi$ion ftl.

[Shorteh]

it's nowhere as much work to make DM and SFK hc than to make so many animations for the Dance Studio.

I hear extracting and re-adjusting existing dances into mini-loops for every model is long and hard work.
Clearly you haven't ever made a model do animations using "skeletons".