Warrior vs. Holy Paladin

[Aedros]

Been having some trouble when going 1 vs. 1 with a holy pally as Arms spec. Are they really supposed to be so damn tough, and kill you so insanely easy as a healer? Would love some tips/advice on how to go against them.

[Deleted]

healers shall not be soloed - that makes them obselete in arenas

[Chomag7]

Just roll a spriest or lock if you want to beat him.
Roll anything that can heal itself if you want to have an endless stalemate.

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healers shall not be soloed - that makes them obselete in arenas

Which is why a rogue/hunter can blow up a disc priest with 1150 resil in 10 seconds.

[Aedros]

Just roll a spriest or lock if you want to beat him.
Roll anything that can heal itself if you want to have an endless stalemate.

I wasn't asking what can beat them, but how to as my current class. But thanks for trying.

[Chomag7]

I wasn't asking what can beat them, but how to as my current class. But thanks for trying.

Oh, I thought I should be more creative rather than "you can't beat him".

[Vevilair]

I don't play an arms, but this is coming from a pretty decent player, sooooooo

Try to save overpower's for his casts for the 75% ms on his heals, charge to interrupt like a jerk, hit him real hard, if he bubbles break it and bladestorm after you MS him and you should be good to go.

[G_A]

As a Healadin, with 1.2k Resil, 3.2k SP, and 30% Crit, I can take down most classes.

The only 4 specs I can't beat:
-Retadins ( They can't kill me, and they end up using SoWisdom and FoL spamming due to the damage I deal out )
-Resto Shammies ( They reset every single god-damn time, due to going OOM )
-Spriests ( Way too much self-healing for me to drop them )
-Afflic Locks ( I can take Demo and Destro, but not Afflic sadly. )

[Ciege]

Been having some trouble when going 1 vs. 1 with a holy pally as Arms spec. Are they really supposed to be so damn tough, and kill you so insanely easy as a healer? Would love some tips/advice on how to go against them.

Taking on a healer as anything that cant heal in some fashion, is pretty much suicide. They can slowly knock you down, while keeping themselves topped off.

Also paladins are pretty much the strongest single target healer, wearing plate, against a melee? Your screwed, sorry.

[Deleted]

As a Healadin, with 1.2k Resil, 3.2k SP, and 30% Crit, I can take down most classes.

The only 4 specs I can't beat:
-Retadins ( They can't kill me, and they end up using SoWisdom and FoL spamming due to the damage I deal out )
-Resto Shammies ( They reset every single god-damn time, due to going OOM )
-Spriests ( Way too much self-healing for me to drop them )
-Afflic Locks ( I can take Demo and Destro, but not Afflic sadly. )

Wait, you can kill resto druids? Or even druids at all as a holy paladin? WOW I'm impressed. But then again I don't believe you.

[Aedros]

Okay, unfortunately, these were the types of responses I was looking for. I was trying everything possible to wear them down like you would a normal healer and then kill them when they go OOM. But I feel a little bit better seeing everyone seems to agree it's just not possible 1 vs. 1.

[Airlick]

You are not supposed to beat them solo, unless you severely outgear them, but then everything becomes easy. If you are being undergeared, expect to be killed aswell, but they shouldn't kill you neither, if you have even gear, warrior has just enough passive heals to stay alive, if you put out enough pressure on pala.

[Wasupblud]

You can NEVER win!

[zcks]

As a whole paladin is the anti warrior due to self healing & not going oom.

If your going to beat a holy paladin solo though do what was said above, save overpower for when you can use it during a cast use charge to stop his casting every Cd, keep MS up all the time, & break his bubble as soon as you can.

Don't worry if you cannot beat him though current wow pvp is more like rock paper scissors then a true scale of skill because of the fact that certain class/specs can counter other so much. That should change in cataclysm though according to blizz & become more about skill since everyone will focus more on what they spec for.

[Athael]

Wait, you can kill resto druids? Or even druids at all as a holy paladin? WOW I'm impressed. But then again I don't believe you.

Where in that post does he mention druids?

[fizikz]

Just roll a spriest or lock if you want to beat him.
Roll anything that can heal itself if you want to have an endless stalemate.

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Which is why a rogue/hunter can blow up a disc priest with 1150 resil in 10 seconds.

I don't see my affliction warlock ever not winning to a healer... unless they somehow ridiculously outgear me.

[G_A]

I don't see my affliction warlock ever not winning to a healer... unless they somehow ridiculously outgear me.

If I can heal through a Destro locks damage with various things up, I'm pretty golden for the rest of the fight. My only struggle is when the lock starts using drain mana, due to me being on 90% mana fully healed and them being OOM lacking some health, that things start to become interesting.

Afflic locks I don't stand a chance against however, dispelling isn't worth the GCD, as it's just a case of reapplication on your end, and I'd be spending way too much time healing and not enough dealing damage, which is about half the trick I've found to killing as a Healadin.

Wait, you can kill resto druids? Or even druids at all as a holy paladin? WOW I'm impressed. But then again I don't believe you.

Yeah, with a balance between SoCorr and SoW, I can OOM a druid twice before his innervate is off CD after the first time. It's hard, but not extremely hard like the specs I mentioned.

[bw13187]

Yeah, with a balance between SoCorr and SoW, I can OOM a druid twice before his innervate is off CD after the first time. It's hard, but not extremely hard like the specs I mentioned.

MAYBE, if they stood right in your face the entire time and spammed you with expensive dots which you just cleansed.

A druid just has to run around and keep a rejuve/ 1 stack lifebloom (just in case) up and you, as a holy pally, will never kill him. the only way youd kill him is if he tried to kill you and didnt manage his mana, in which case you would have lost to a bad resto druid.

[foxHeart]

If I can heal through a Destro locks damage with various things up, I'm pretty golden for the rest of the fight. My only struggle is when the lock starts using drain mana, due to me being on 90% mana fully healed and them being OOM lacking some health, that things start to become interesting.

Afflic locks I don't stand a chance against however, dispelling isn't worth the GCD, as it's just a case of reapplication on your end, and I'd be spending way too much time healing and not enough dealing damage, which is about half the trick I've found to killing as a Healadin.


Yeah, with a balance between SoCorr and SoW, I can OOM a druid twice before his innervate is off CD after the first time. It's hard, but not extremely hard like the specs I mentioned.

So let me get this straight...a holy paladin can deal out so much damage that he ooms a resto druid. lmao! You're either a) a complete liar, or b) someone who has faced completely retarded resto druids in pve gear.

[mikka]

a+b+c (playin at aprox.: 1300

[Judicium]

As a Healadin, with 1.2k Resil, 3.2k SP, and 30% Crit, I can take down most classes.

The only 4 specs I can't beat:
-Retadins ( They can't kill me, and they end up using SoWisdom and FoL spamming due to the damage I deal out )
-Resto Shammies ( They reset every single god-damn time, due to going OOM )
-Spriests ( Way too much self-healing for me to drop them )
-Afflic Locks ( I can take Demo and Destro, but not Afflic sadly. )

LOLWUT, I would outheal your damage with JoL and DS ALONE. The whole stalemate thing is more or less true though.