i got question to all beta players:
do warriors enrage buffs stack/ can be triggered in the same time?
- death wish (talent)
- bloodrage (fury in blood talent)
- enrage (being hit, from talent)
- enrage (mastery)
- Inner Rage (ability, lvl 81)
i got question to all beta players:
do warriors enrage buffs stack/ can be triggered in the same time?
- death wish (talent)
- bloodrage (fury in blood talent)
- enrage (being hit, from talent)
- enrage (mastery)
- Inner Rage (ability, lvl 81)
Last edited by machop; 2010-07-15 at 09:01 AM.
oh man i hope so (even if multiplicative(sp?) which it would most likely be if they do)
it would make the 10% damage reduction on TG nearly unnoticeable =]
granted by the time cata actually drops we could have very few of those enrages left :P
Enrage mastery is no enrage.
Inner rage is no enrage.
I don't know if the talent Enrage will stack with Deathwish as it hasn't done that for a long time, but I could see them balancing it.
And Bloodrage was always use-able while having other enrage's.. Except for Enraged Regen.
I like it that they are making fury a real enraged berserker.
Fury Warriors: GRAAWR IM SO DAMN MAD MY BLOOD FREAKIN RAGES. A WARLOCK! NEED TO KILL HIM, NEED TO SEE HIM DEAD!! RAAAAAWRRR WTF HE FEARED ME FUUCK I DONT CARE CUZ IM SO MAD MY RAGE BREAKS IT!! CHAAARGE OH WHAAT HE HURT ME?? DAMN THAT ENRAGES ME EVEN MORE RAAAAWRRR!! WTF NOW I RAGE SO HARD IT MAKES ME EVEN MORE MAD!! I BLEED BUT I DONT CARE CUZ IM SO FUCKIN MAD MY WOUNDS CLOSE THEMSELVES!! .. Ok now I'm somewhat calm again.
That should summarize a Fury Warrior's... Fury?
well im more interested to have 5 buffs in the same time than "stack"
example:
u use bloodrage
u use deathwish+orc racial (time for big aoe)
mastery enrage pops up coz of deathwish
u are (accidently ofc) hit by mob (enrage from talent pops up)
u get 100/100 rage (inner rage pops up)
finally u got 5 buffs in the same time (is this possible lol? )
that whole enrage/rage management system is looking very nice, and will change our class gameplay i like it
Last edited by machop; 2010-07-15 at 10:26 AM.
Why would you go with TG if you have the option to go with 2 equal level 1handers? There are only 2 abilities left that the weapon damage matters, WW and slam. WW will not be part of single target dps cycle and slam is what.. 5-9% of overall dps. Add that 2hand specialisation is gone as well.
single minded fury increases all damage donw by 20% so i think it effects bloodthrist and victory rush as well not just the attacks based on weapon damage. now all they have to do is add heroic strike to it so cleave isnt better then it for single target.
Are you really trying to say HS hits harder with a slow weapon instead of a fast weapon? HS is a static +damage on your weapon hit, so it does not matter what speed weapon you have.
And they are balancing SMF to make it equal to TG, and I am pretty sure they will be able to do it.
And I'd rather have cleave then HS. With the new threat-decay and all. And cleavin' shit up will make me feel a bit like Saurfang. /giggle
You might want to recheck on HS.
As you said it's a static +damage on weapon hit, the thing though is that two handed weapons have a much higher damage range than 1-handed ones do, so HS should hit harder.
I'm pretty sure SMF effects HS though, but I'm too lazy to check right now.
SMF= +20% damage / TG= -10% damage. As things are now in Beta TG penalty has no reason to exist because several of our abilities have changed from weapon damage based to AP based.
Heroic strike and cleave are now AP based and SMF makes cleave hit with both hands. The only abilities that are still shown as weapon damage based are slam and WW. Slam is at the bottom of charts with like ~5% of overall DPS and WW isnt used for single target which consequently means that the slam procs will be obviously less that now.
Long story short the only attacks that matter for fury and remain weapon damage based are: slam and ww. Maybe Rend if fury is supposed to DPS in battle stance since there is no reason to stay in berzerker any more. Assuming those abilities hit harder with TG.. well everything else hits for 90% of potential while with SMF it is 120% minus some stats.
It is pretty obvious to me that as it is atm TG is supposed to be PVP talent and they dont know it yet.
i kno they are ap based now but i dont understand how cleave will hit with both weapons if it is ap based
o n btw inner rage is an enrage "Whenever you achieve maximum Rage you enter an Enraged state, increasing damage caused by all abilities by 50% and increasing Rage cost by 15%. This effect is immediately cancelled when your Rage total drops below 30."
says enraged state so it seems that our mastery would affect it
Last edited by bloodronin; 2010-07-16 at 06:11 AM.