Warrior DPS in ptr

[Kainon]

Iv been playing around with the PTR today and i thought i'd post what iv noticed so far as DPS for arms and fury entails.

Fury- Upon transferring my character over to the PTR all of my armor pen gems were changed to 20 crit gems (this kinda sucks, but w/e). Even though all of the gems were changed, i couldn't help but notice that every move used did not hit hard at all. I'll throw some numbers at you: My highest BT crit was only 5k, and my lowest crit was an abyssal 900 damage. Again, i am aware that having full crit gems can cause a gap in dps, but only critting for around 1-4k on average? that doesn't sound right. (my gear is full 264, new to mmo champion so it won't let me link my armory sorry)

Arms- Arms is looking great as far as their new moves. Throwdown is awesome in PvP and the changes to rend make burst in pvp much more effective. if you are unaware, rend deals dmg upon its application, so Taste For Blood procs really quick. aslo, the rend ticks can crit. The most exciting addition to me is the new arms cooldown deadly calm, although the animation is very dull. however, i noticed the same problem with Arms as i did with Fury. their damage seems severly gimped right now, with overpower only critting at around 4k on a dummy (8-9k on live).

All this being said i guess it brings me to a final question: is the scaling for warriors damage simply not complete at the moment? from what i have seen from talking to others, every class has seen a dps increase from live to the PTR, which has me a little concerned. thoughts?

[deathtakes]

I have been wondering where all these posts have been. I was starting to think there were no warriors testing at all. Warrior damage has been like that for a while now. You'll do about half as much damage testing than you will in live and if you're in beat you already know as you scale it gets worse. Not much of a big deal I know, its just number tweaking, but its hard to level when mobs crit your for 10k and you crit them for 4k.

[Kainon]

so from what you are insinuating blizzard is aware and they are going to do some number tweaking?

[lolcantdothat]

I am testing a warrior as well. Fury and arms are much more fun than live thats for sure, just the damage is about half it seems.

[Devlin1991]

in a mix of 305 and 333 gear on the BETA I can just break 5k as arms and ~4k as fury. Warrior damage is no where near balanced on BETA we are missing a lot of damage so just give it time until they fix our co-efficients

[Kaleokalani]

I am testing a warrior as well. Fury and arms are much more fun than live thats for sure, just the damage is about half it seems.

I just want to note that you are taking the correct approach to beta testing. Blizzard has been clear that the numbers are still all over the place, but they want you to test the playstyle. So, thank you for actually being helpful. I hope you're submitting reports in beta.

[SLUSHER]

I noticed the same sort of thing on my shadowmourne, mostly 277 warrior. I realise a lot of the poor damage comes from lolcrit gemming, the reason I had not posted is becasue my ptr download has not completed. When it does I'll install parrot and recount and get a more accurate idea, but the eyeball test is pretty low.

Also Arms damage is pretty un-informative. Sudden death being completely gone until you reach level 81 has made the rotation completely broken for the time being, and with the armor ignore buff that it gives it could change everything, at least for arms, but I'll post again when I get the complete patch downloaded.

[deathtakes]

so from what you are insinuating blizzard is aware and they are going to do some number tweaking?

They damn well better be aware!

[protection66]

Right now as a fresh ptr transfer with 4 piece 264 and heroic 277 off pieces / weapons; filled with crit gems. I just have raging blow glyph (all I have since no glyph vendor ect)

I am pulling the most self buffed dps (Titan's Grip) by ignoring Raging Blow and going BT > Blood Surge Proc > Heroic Strike > Heroic Throw > Battle Shout. This is with incite maxed, I have not tried keeping sunder stacks up yet.

thoughts?

[BaddyMcBad]

Right now as a fresh ptr transfer with 4 piece 264 and heroic 277 off pieces / weapons; filled with crit gems. I just have raging blow glyph (all I have since no glyph vendor ect)

I am pulling the most self buffed dps (Titan's Grip) by ignoring Raging Blow and going BT > Blood Surge Proc > Heroic Strike > Heroic Throw > Battle Shout. This is with incite maxed, I have not tried keeping sunder stacks up yet.

thoughts?

You should probably use Raging Blow, and there are glyph vendors in Dalaran.

[Flaks]

At the moment, arms seems to be SUPER DUPER GCD LOCKED. This, coupled with the fact that our damage is so low, really puts us behind in doing dungeons.

Tried fury dps as well, its definitely fun but I do like being GCD locked in a way. At the same time, its kinduva turn off that when you're not enraged your rotation basically just becomes Bloodthirst + Heroic Strike.

Can't wait 'til the number tweak. Still, I've managed to solo 5-6 mobs without blowing major cds as fury in Vash'jir. Maybe it gets worse in Deepholme but its not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.

[protection66]

You should probably use Raging Blow, and there are glyph vendors in Dalaran.

Where in Dalaran? I checked the inscription building.

[Rosham]

There is a Warrior glyph vendor behind the desk on the left that sells most of them (in the Inscription shop), although not quite all of them - some for like Col Smash don't seem to be there but are greyed out on the character glyph page - Somehow I do seem to have managed to get both a prime and major glyph for Raging Blow (increasing crit change by 5% I think it is now).

Warrior damage does seem to be pretty lame as others have said, questing alongside warlocks has shown this up hugely, they cut through things about twice the speed we can, and also take considerably less damage.

For the taking on 5-6 mobs, that won't last long in Deepholm, its back to taking on a couple of mobs at a time I have found. Victory Rush is also your new best friend in this area I've found.

[Moozart]

There is a Warrior glyph vendor behind the desk on the left that sells most of them (in the Inscription shop), although not quite all of them - some for like Col Smash don't seem to be there but are greyed out on the character glyph page - Somehow I do seem to have managed to get both a prime and major glyph for Raging Blow (increasing crit change by 5% I think it is now).

Warrior damage does seem to be pretty lame as others have said, questing alongside warlocks has shown this up hugely, they cut through things about twice the speed we can, and also take considerably less damage.

For the taking on 5-6 mobs, that won't last long in Deepholm, its back to taking on a couple of mobs at a time I have found. Victory Rush is also your new best friend in this area I've found.

There are no Glyph vendors in that shop on PTR

[Rosham]

Which ever beta server your on must be missing it then, as I purchased some yesterday from the Inscription supplies shop, so its definately there.

[xebtria]

this thread has a sound of mixing up beta and PTR. I guess, OP is about PTR.

just sayin' ...

[Deleted]

It's actually really fun playing a warrior, i love the new play style. But like everyone's said, it just needs some number tweaking. The changes are awesome but the numbers aren't quite right. A big step in the right direction blizz

[Soulslider]

Ain't all dmg down on the PTR (except BM huntards ofc). I have read similar threads from druid and MM+Surv hunters.

[rhaaz]

Isn't CS bugged atm?

I remember seeing multiple blue posts where they stated the armor reduction coefficient was backwards for CS, so instead of lowering boss armor for your next attacks it raises it.

Is this still the case?

If so, this could be a clear cut reason why Warrior damage is gimped.

[Deleted]

For those who are using Fury in the PTR, what does your rotation look like? I'm still waiting to for my toon to copy over to the PTR's, but it would be helpful to get at least an idea of what a proper rotation with the new talents is. I saw the rotation above, but not using RB doesn't seem right. Any help appreciated.