[TV] The Walking Dead (*Spoilers*)

[BarelyLegalBear]

I hate to be so cynical, but I'd guess that we'll either see them eating those nameless people in that boxcar to establish how "bad" they are, or they'll join Rick's group like the Woodbury survivors and just slowly die off across season 5 because they won't really matter.

ORRRRRR, they could be knew main characters in the next season. Enjoy seeing new characters make it to the show because it means we get to kill off our favorite characters. Just don't kill Rick off and i'll be a happy camper. Hopefully though, these people will be of some importance....not just some feast.

[Ciddy]

Here's my theory. THERE is no way in hell no one can be that terrible of a shot. I mean a terrible shooter could of still shot one at least. They were definitely baited by the cannibals and why did they keep running is one of my questions. They could of barricaded in a room and shot at the incoming people through the door. Would of been smarter than running into a trap in my opinion.

I think the scene where Rick showed Carl how the rabbit trap works was supposed to be foreshadowing for this. The whole "you arrange a pathway like this, so the only place he has to go is right in the trap" thing.

But yeah, Terminus bad guys weren't bad shots. They could've easily executed Rick's group if they'd wanted.

[Itisamuh]

It seems like every season is worse than the one before it (all in my opinion, I know, chill.) The only thing I was really interested in seeing resolved this episode was whether or not Beth died (so I could be pissed if she did, or content if she reunited with Daryl and Maggie) and she never even showed. Only a matter of time before Walking Dead fully converts from interesting zombie drama with likable characters, to torture porn with zombies in the background. These last two seasons have clearly been pushing it in that direction. And before anyone says it, I know, and do not care, that the comic goes in that direction. The show started off great, but is losing its taste (no pun intended, cannibals.)

[Celarent]

So, I'm thinking:

It'd be really cool if Rick snapped and kicked some ass.

It'd be really cool if Rick snapped and kicked some ass.

It'd be really cool if Rick snapped and OH MY GOD HE ATE JOE'S NECK

[Ciddy]

So, I'm thinking:

It'd be really cool if Rick snapped and kicked some ass.

It'd be really cool if Rick snapped and kicked some ass.

It'd be really cool if Rick snapped and OH MY GOD HE ATE JOE'S NECK

Agreed. That scene was the highlight of the episode for me. And it was really badass when Rick growled the "he's mine" line before he went and stabbed that dude's head to pieces.

I was actually a bit worried about Daryl for a minute there.

[Faltemer]

I just love this mentality. You and Faltemer. You presume that I hate the show because I found the finale bad. What kind of fucking derpy ass logic is that? Are people not allowed to criticize what they want? Do you know what you two are? Bad consumers. Even things I absolutely love I can find fault with, because legitimate criticism makes things better. If everybody was just like 'Yup, great, love it,' no matter what a company does, then they start abusing that shit.

Thanks for employing the mentality that allows companies to get away with the shit they do because "Hurrr if you don't like it, don't watch it!"

You claimed you hated this entire half season, so at least fess up to what you constantly have said before. That's why i assumed you hated the show, because no one i've ever met would be willing to sit through 8 hours of stuff they absolutely hate and then call it love.

And you just stated your opinion as a fact and shit over what anyone said without even giving any sort of reasoning behind it. Then someone bothers to tell you how the show you claimed was so magnificent wasn't quite so, with actual reasoning, and your response is no. Just no. Then you have the gall to get mad when anyone tells you, that you are the one in the wrong, again with actual reasoning. When you have legitimate criticism we'll listen, until then don't expect people to randomly agree with.

Don't you dare call me a bad consumer when you are in fact what's wrong, stating your opinion as absolute fact and demanding everyone agree with it, lest they be labeled "bad consumer".

Again, the majority of reviews I've seen, and jut random posts on here and otherwise are overwhelmingly positive. So in reality, what they did worked, and people liked it. get over it.

[Celarent]

And it was really badass when Rick growled the "he's mine" line before he went and stabbed that dude's head to pieces.

Which probably matched what half the audience was feeling, too. I enjoy the level of protagonist agency lately. Getting badly waylaid simply means Rick's vengeance might some work.

[KrazyK923]

get over it.

Considering you and your ilk jumped on me because I disliked it, I'd suggest you take your own advice. By the way:

You claimed you hated this entire half season, so at least fess up to what you constantly have said before.That's why i assumed you hated the show, because no one i've ever met would be willing to sit through 8 hours of stuff they absolutely hate and then call it love.

That still doesn't mean I hate the show. But thanks for trying. Oh, and adding words like "absolutely" onto what I had said isn't helping your case here. You even admit here you were arguing against an assumption I never made. That should be all anybody needs to know to discount you, but I'll continue:

And you just stated your opinion as a fact and shit over what anyone said without even giving any sort of reasoning behind it.

What a load of shit. I never stated my opinion as fact. It was very clearly an opinion. You don't have to say "In my opinion..." every single time you give your opinion. Stop putting words into my mouth. Its kind of funny, because you're actually the one here arguing from a position of fact with comments like:

Then you have the gall to get mad when anyone tells you, that you are the one in the wrong, again with actual reasoning.

Because anybody who's actually being legitimate that liking or dislike the past half season is entirely subjective.

Don't you dare call me a bad consumer when you are in fact what's wrong, stating your opinion as absolute fact and demanding everyone agree with it, lest they be labeled "bad consumer".

No, you are. You're a terrible consumer. And what makes it worse is that your ilk is the reason we get worse product for the same value. You seem to accept whatever shit they throw at you and call it prime rib. And better than that, you immediately jump on somebody who wonders why the "prime rib" you were served had lumps of shit on it.

Surprisingly, people can dislike something you may have liked. I'll, once again before you start claiming I began the argument here, remind you that I merely stated that I didn't like the season finale and was jumped on for it. See?

Wow, I don't know if I'm spoiled by Game of Thrones, but this season finale was terrible.

There was zero resolution, and as usual the show abuses a cliffhanger (Using a modified scene from the comics, no less) to pretend like its cool we're waiting until October before something actually happens.

They tease Terminus for half a season, and everybody and their mother realize its a trap before anybody even gets there, and there is zero resolution except they get captured, again. 20 minutes of the episode is wasted on flashbacks that give zero new information or character development that we didn't already know, and another 15 is wasted on Daryl's group's standoff with Rick, Michonne, and Carl.

Really disappointed. Im curious how many episodes of next season we're going to waste on Terminus/TV's version of the Hunters.

Next time maybe actually disagree with things I've actually said or ideas I've actually expressed. Maybe you wouldn't look like such a fool. Bye.

[Faltemer]

Still sticking to the same position and refusing to listen to anyone else. And once again completely ignoring their actions 2 pages ago, have fun watching shows you aren't currently enjoying.

[KrazyK923]

I don't...actually think you can comprehend words.

[Immitis]

can we please move on from whether or not people think its good or shit and just discuss what actually fucking happened for once

[draykorinee]

can we please move on from whether or not people think its good or shit and just discuss what actually fucking happened for once

Seconded, just take your discussions to a PM because its incredibly boring to trawl through 2 or 3 people bickering over 5 pages what they think accounts to character progression..

[Mteq]

Bob will probably die. he's getting a bit to happy chappy. Maybe Tara as well. fact they are now promoted as regulars does not bode well for that theory though.

source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...-andrew-692170

[KrazyK923]

So, looks like Gareth (The leader of Terminus presumably) is being promoted to a series regular for Season 5. Great. The Hunters were 6 issues of the comic, not an entire years worth.

Incoming overly drawnout story with an abundance of filler.

[Deleted]

So, looks like Gareth (The leader of Terminus presumably) is being promoted to a series regular for Season 5. Great. The Hunters were 6 issues of the comic, not an entire years worth.

Incoming overly drawnout story with an abundance of filler.

Who gives a rat's ass about how many issues the hunters had in the comics?
Good directing is good directing, bad directing is bad directing.
I want good directing, don't care if filler or not. Don't know why would anyone care to be honest. Such a ridiculous concept. What the fuck is a "filler"? It's a series I watch sitting on the sofa relaxing why would I care if its a "filler" or if the "lore has been honoured".
Jesus Christ you sound like the comic book guy in the Simpsons.

[KrazyK923]

Mmm...I guess this thread is a lost cause. Any possible negative feedback is lost to ad hominem attacks. I suppose y'all be content with your perfect show with zero issues whatsoever. I think that announcement was the last straw for me. I'll check out the season premiere, but I can't deal with an entire season of The Hunters when there's enough story for probably not even half a season without them resorting to Season 2esque filler bullshit.

[Deleted]

Mmm...I guess this thread is a lost cause. Any possible negative feedback is lost to ad hominem attacks. I suppose y'all be content with your perfect show with zero issues whatsoever. I think that announcement was the last straw for me. I'll check out the season premiere, but I can't deal with an entire season of The Hunters when there's enough story for probably not even half a season without them resorting to Season 2esque filler bullshit.

What? I don't know you, I don't know what you said. Your comment I replied to was obnoxious. Period. I don't know who you are and I don't come here often, only to discuss an episode after watching it.
So, if season 5 is lets say, a masterpiece of acting, scenography and story twists, you won't watch it because "on the comics it's only 6 episodes"?

[Mteq]

they are actually splitting up season 5 in two arches, 8 episodes each. source: http://www.wetpaint.com/walking-dead...t-happens-next

so part 1 will be cannibal fighting with flashbacks etc. part two will be the road trip to D.C. with them arriving at (Comic spoiler) safe zone alexandria

ow, and even though the actual cannibal arch in the comics was only 6 books. the overall general story of what we see now(and whats in the comics (meeting the priest and hearing his story etc)) involves a lot more.


everyone was together in the comics going into the hunter arc. here, we have the Rick group in the trailer, beth missing with probably gabriel stokes, and than there's Carol, Tyreese and Judith.

Carol, tyreese and Judith are still walking about, or already dead(ish) and we could have an episode of seeing how they ended up that way. maybe an episode or two about Beth and Gabriel wanting to go to terminus or ending up there or anything in that general direction.


that leaves 5 episodes for pure cannibal killing. seems like the proper amount to me.

[KrazyK923]

Thank god. Thank you for posting that. I've stopped watching Talking Dead lately because of reasons, I don't feel like arguing over why I feel that show is kind of shitty too, so I missed what he said on there.

[Mteq]

Thank god. Thank you for posting that. I've stopped watching Talking Dead lately because of reasons, I don't feel like arguing over why I feel that show is kind of shitty too, so I missed what he said on there.

they don't air it here (the netherlands) at all. i'm just a bit of a walking dead junky and try to get every bit of info i can via other sources.

why exactly do you think it's going downhill? are you not enjoying the story? or is it simply that you think not enough is happening? i think it's pretty hard to compare this show in regards to development and plots to a show like GOT. there are a lot more characters involved and it is based on a medium that can go into a lot more detail than a comic can. is it possible that you might be looking at TWD with wrong expectations?

season 1 and two were stand alone seasons. they all had their own ending. season 3 was actually 3.5 with the later part of 4 building up for season 5. so in that aspect, there was no season 4 on it's own.

the writers are well aware that there is another season 5 coming when they started on 4. even though it wasn't officially made so. other shows often don't have this luxury so ending with a cliff hanger would leave for a truckload of unanswered questions in them. there is no obligation in TWD to end each season "finished" story wise.

if they end season 5 with the group arriving at alexandria it would be a somewhat satisfying ending, basically a happy end. they reach a steady, working community and can live in peace. we wouldn't know if the walkers are ever treated or w/e, but we can assume that humanity will survive. if they than introduce Negan at the start of season 6, the first 5 seasons would still be a proper story on their own.

but, seeing the comics are immensely popular and RK has mentioned somewhere that he has already planned out the story for at least 250 more comics, combined with TWD being the most popular series on American TV at the moment, i don't see this show ending for a good while.