WTB threat reduction

[Tripwar]

Like the title says, I want some kind of threat reduction, threat push, or threat dump. Even with TotT I have to wait an extra 5-10 seconds before I start doing damage. With cooldowns popped I pull 25-27k tps. It is stupid with the way tricks works now because as soon as it wears off the tank threat drops and I have to competely stop everything except white damage(with sometimes if i get really unlucky i have to stop that as well). Fury's threat was retarded pre-4.0 and with removing Imp. Bzerker Stance I out threat everything. So, I guess take this as a QQ thread. I don't really care, I just want Blizz to throw us some kind of threat reduction without beating us with the nerf stick.

[Flaubertlives]

Shadow Priest here, I agree

[KaziOfTheSkies]

Ret pala here, have the same prob. And I have hand of salvation.

[Tripwar]

You at least have Fade. It's better than nothing. Lol

---------- Post added 2010-11-19 at 05:08 AM ----------

Even with getting a Salv off the start of the fight and starggering another one directly after I still sit at like 80% aggro. Then the second Salv falls off and TotT off the tank and I sit around 90% threat until i sit and white damage for a few seconds, or stop all together.

[Tripwar]

It isn't the tanks fault. It's because Vengence is flawed. It takes too long to get it stacked so threat from the start even with pushes sucks.

---------- Post added 2010-11-19 at 05:13 AM ----------

My brother is our main tank. He's a pally so he gets to listen to me /rage for Salv lol

[Evilmonkey]

then unfortunately you'll have to stop dpsing like everyone else would of get a Salv from a paladin. those are your two options.

[drbutcher]

Wotlk has poisoned people so much.What's the problem with threat?Do you prefer it the way it was during wotlk when everyone just ignored it after the first 3 seconds?

Have you ever heard the phrase "threat capped"?Many classes/specs were threat capped before wotlk.It was a way to limit their dps without nurfing them in pvp or solo.I can't see the problem here.Your dps is as high as your threat allow you.Will you prefer to be like enha shamans doing 16-17k dps with 30% buff and BiS gear? Be happy with what you have and just watch your threat.It's not that hard.

[Sollace]

Frost Dk here. I still find it funny how fast i pull aggro lol.

[The Polarbear]

Like the title says, I want some kind of threat reduction, threat push, or threat dump. Even with TotT I have to wait an extra 5-10 seconds before I start doing damage. With cooldowns popped I pull 25-27k tps. It is stupid with the way tricks works now because as soon as it wears off the tank threat drops and I have to competely stop everything except white damage(with sometimes if i get really unlucky i have to stop that as well). Fury's threat was retarded pre-4.0 and with removing Imp. Bzerker Stance I out threat everything. So, I guess take this as a QQ thread. I don't really care, I just want Blizz to throw us some kind of threat reduction without beating us with the nerf stick.

get better tanks and more MDs and tricks

[Kifimbo]

boomkin here, and i have the same problem, even with salvs i still have to stop casting my wrath/starfires and jsut let my dots tick and starsurge on procs. rather annoying.

[Evilmonkey]

get better tanks and more MDs and tricks

well the problem with tricks and MD is the are no longer permanent threat gains. once they wear off the threat gained is lost. still not an excuse for pulling threat but after the initial pull they really aren't that helpful.

[Brawlking]

Being a well geared Paladin tank this doesn't happen to me. If you are playing with an under geared tank, it's part of your job to watch your threat too. Do whatever you need to do not to die.

[Mixxy]

This has been a problem for like, 2 years now for Warrior DPS, even worse now without Imp Berserker Stance. Being one of the highest threat classes, and one of the only classes without ANY kind of threat drop... it kinda sucks. Even Warlocks get to practically zero out their agro every 5 mins.

It's not even a problem with waiting.. Hell, I can give the tanks a good 10-15 seconds head start... then I need to spend the rest of the fight doing sub-par DPS because I'm sat at 80 or 90% agro after a few seconds of DPSing...

Needless to say, looking forward to swapping to my Rogue. Tricks, Vanish, Feint... Om nom nom.

[Evilmonkey]

Even Warlocks get to practically zero out their agro every 5 mins.

not to make you feel worse about the Warrior but if your refering to Soulshatter then its once every 2 minutes.

[Cracka_Bob]

If you have healers that can keep everyone up with no problem, DPS who wait for initial aggro and attack the correct target, and tanks who know where to stand and when to use CDs, then I would suggest having the tanks go for a threat build as opposed to a survival build

warrior threat build example (this is what I use):
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LhZZIfGzRRodbu:0VocVk0kM
points can be moved from Shield Specialization (since rage is hardly an issue) to Gag Order (useful for pulling casters) or Cruelty (more threat from Shield Slam)

[Moralio]

boomkin here, and i have the same problem, even with salvs i still have to stop casting my wrath/starfires and jsut let my dots tick and starsurge on procs. rather annoying.

/sign

Aye, it is annoying. I usually then just run around and spam moonfire/sunfire. Some quick threat dump like Mirror Image would be great.

[teamedward]

get better tanks and more MDs and tricks

this

[Cracka_Bob]

/sign

Aye, it is annoying. I usually then just run around and spam moonfire/sunfire. Some quick threat dump like Mirror Image would be great.

does switching to cat form and using cower help? (serious question... I dont have a druid until cata)

[Irony]

Dying is the best threat reduction of all!

[Gob]

Maybe you'll have to manage your threat for once.