Raid Progression Path

[Azshira]

Hey all just want your opinions on what you think in order from start to finish would be the order of difficulty in terms of progression (normal mode) for your average raid guild (or even how you would like to do it with your own guild!). My guild will be starting shortly and just want some opinions, and yes I have checked wowprogress I'm sure this list will help others too in planning.

How it works:

Put in order from 1 - 12 your list of bosses in terms of a progression path that YOU think would be suitable for an average guild (or your own) to take down.

1 being the first boss in progression, 12 being the last. Remember the path must be logical, as in you can't put Nefarian 2nd due to you must kill all the others before him, however you can put the first boss in a dungeon as 1 and the first boss in another dungeon as 2, as long as all 12 bosses are used. For ease you can simply copy and paste boss names from the list below.

Boss List:

Throne of Four Winds:
-Conclave of Wind
-Al'Akir

Bastion of Twilight:

-Halfus Wyrmbreaker
-Valiona and Theralion
-Twilight Ascendants
-Cho'gall

Blackwing Descent:

-Omnitron Defense System
-Chimaeron
-Atramedes
-Maloriak
-Magmaw
-Nefarian


Hope this activity might be fun for you to do and get the creative juices flowing. Enjoy!

EDIT: It be cool also if you say 10/25 man, because I know there is a boss or 2 that is much harder in 25 than 10 version.

[Deleted]

Throne of Four Winds:
-Conclave of Wind 1
-Al'Akir 10

Bastion of Twilight:

-Halfus Wyrmbreaker 3
-Valiona and Theralion 4
-Twilight Ascendants 7
-Cho'gall 11

Blackwing Descent:

-Omnitron Defense System 2
-Chimaeron 8
-Atramedes 9
-Maloriak 6
-Magmaw 5
-Nefarian 12

We have only done 1-6 but this seems about right. Twilight ascendants might actually be easier than Maloriak as he takes a good amount of dps and execution to pull off.

[DynastyZero]

I'm sure world first guilds spent some time optimizing their kill path.

Paragon's Kill Path
1. Conclave of Wind
2. Omnotron Defense System
3. Magmaw
4. Atramedes
5. Maloriak
6. Halfus Wyrmbreaker
7. Valiona and Theralion
8. Chimaeron
9. Ascendant Council
10. Cho'gall
11. Al'Akir
12. Nefarian

Premonition's Kill Path
1. Omnotron Defense System
2. Magmaw
3. Maloriak
4. Atramedes
5. Conclave of Wind
6. Halfus Wyrmbreaker
7. Valiona and Theralion
8. Chimaeron
9. Ascendant Council
10. Cho'gall
11. Al'Akir
12. Nefarian

[Deleted]

So far our proegression path has been:

Halfus Wyrmbreaker
Magmaw
Omnotron Defense System
Atramedes
Conclave of Wind
Valiona and Theralion

We didn't really plan out anything in particular though. It was more a case of "lets go try this boss now"

[Larcissa]

1) Conclave of Four Winds
2) Halfus Wyrmbreaker
3) Omnitron Defence System
4) Magmaw
5) Valiona and Theralion
6) Atramedes
7) Chimaeron
8) Maloriak
9) Ascendant Council
10) Al'Akir
11) Cho'gall
12) Nefarian

For my guild at least, trying from easiest to hardest, in our opinions at least, up to Atramedes atm

[Marxman]

1. Magmaw
2. Omnitron
3. Conclave of Four Winds
4. Halfus Wyrmbreaker
5. Atramedes
6. Maloriak
7. Valiona and Theralion
8. Chimaeron
9. Al'Akir
10. Ascendant Council
11. Cho'gall
12. Nefarian

I think people overestimate Al'Akir and underestimate Ascendant Council. Al'Akir is a very straightforward fight, whereas Council requires quite a bit of coordination and a hell of a good "burn phase" capability in both DPS and healing.

[Larcissa]

I think people overestimate Al'Akir and underestimate Ascendant Council. Al'Akir is a very straightforward fight, whereas Council requires quite a bit of coordination and a hell of a good "burn phase" capability in both DPS and healing.

Phase 3 for Al'Akir requires a good "burn phase" as well, very taxing on the healers if you let the fight drag on for too long, a guaranteed wipe if your healers aren't geared enough

[Minto44]

Throne of Four Winds:
-Conclave of Wind 4
-Al'Akir 11

Bastion of Twilight:

-Halfus Wyrmbreaker 3
-Valiona and Theralion 6
-Twilight Ascendants 8
-Cho'gall 10

Blackwing Descent:

-Omnitron Defense System 1
-Chimaeron 9
-Atramedes 7
-Maloriak 5
-Magmaw 2
-Nefarian 12

This is how it should be. People are definitely overestimating Maloriak, he's an incredibly simple fight, easy on the healers and you only need about 11k DPS per person in a 10 man to beat the enrage.

[seam]

Throne of Four Winds:
1-Conclave of Wind
11-Al'Akir

Bastion of Twilight:

2-Halfus Wyrmbreaker
4-Valiona and Theralion
7-Twilight Ascendants
10-Cho'gall

Blackwing Descent:

3-Omnitron Defense System
9-Chimaeron
8-Atramedes
6-Maloriak
5-Magmaw
12-Nefarian

Imo

[Kalmah]

You might want to add if you're talking about 10 or 25, as I'm sure some fights change a lot. Al'akir for example requires extremely strict positioning in phase1 on 25. On 10man it's a bit of a joke. Other fights have been said to be tuned tighter on 10man.

[Azshira]

Yea I guess people could add what their guild raid size is etc, but personally mine is a 10man

[Izzirez]

My guild is currently sitting at:

Omnotron
Magmaw
Conclave
Halfus
Valiona and Theralion
Atramedes (10)
Maloriak (10)

[Azshira]

Personally from reading about the bosses and watching some vids I think something like: (I havent done them so this is just a thought)

Boss List:

-Conclave of Wind 1
-Omnitron Defense System 2
-Halfus Wyrmbreaker 3
-Valiona and Theralion 4
-Atramedes 5
-Maloriak 6
-Magmaw 7
-Chimaeron 8
-Al'Akir 9
-Twilight Ascendants 10
-Cho'gall 11
-Nefarian 12

As said this is what I got from reading and watching some vids, but hey I like everyones opinions so far

[Tesoni]

For us(10 man raid guild) so far we have gone


Halfus
Valiona/Theralion
Omnotron
Magmaw
Maloriak
Atramedes
Conclave
Chimaerok


The hardest one by far and the only one that we spent more than one night on was Chimaerok. The tanking and healing requirements on that fight are incredibly intense on 10 man. It took us a little over 20 attempts to get it down. All the other bosses died in less than 10.

[toshax]

The first 5 are a tossup and can really just be muscled pretty easily, but I'd probably go with something like:

1-5. Halfus
1-5. Omnitron
1-5. Magmaw
1-5. Valiona & Theralion
1-5. Conclave
6-7. Maloriak
6-7. Atramedes
8. Chimaeron
9. Ascendant Council
10. Al'akir
11. Cho'gall
12. Nefarian

[Azshira]

Halfus seems to change for me depending on the composition of the dragons selected.

[Azshira]

Any more thoughts?

[Torture]

We went;

Halfus
Valiona
Omnitron
Magmaw
Maloriak

We'll flatten conclave next reset as we simply didn't get round to it next week.

Then I think it's Atremedes and Chimaeron

[Azshira]

Kind of thinking 1st boss in each of the 3 dungeons, then the 2nd boss in 2 of them, and then continue doing another 2 or so in Blackwing, before coming back to finish off Bastion.

[Deleted]

Throne of Four Winds:
-Conclave of Wind 5
-Al'Akir 11

Bastion of Twilight:

-Halfus Wyrmbreaker 2
-Valiona and Theralion 6
-Twilight Ascendants 8
-Cho'gall 10

Blackwing Descent:

-Omnitron Defense System 3
-Chimaeron 9
-Atramedes 7
-Maloriak 4
-Magmaw 1
-Nefarian 12