Most Overpowered PvP class (Cata edit)

[Leothas]

So I figured I would remake the Poll and discussion from Wrath of the Lich King's most overpowered PvP class in order to see what classes are now overpowered in PvP.

Old thread: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ered-PvP-class

Let's see if the table has switched.

Once again let me clarify that we are talking the optimal spec for every class here since we cannot make more choices than 10 in a single poll.

Feel free to comment on which class, spec and why.

have your say - who is the most overpowered PvP class?

[Divinism]

Frost mages, even the mediocre players can toy with me as a warrior, few arena matches that ended up 1v1 against frost mages were almost always lost.

The latest caused the most rage, because the mage had something like 1k health, we managed to kill his partner, but also my partner died in the progress. He could just freeze me in place and kite me while blinking away and gaining speed buff. He got to LoS me multiple times and got time to drink. For 5 minutes I managed to keep him at 10-20% with Rend, also I managed to reflect most of his Deep Freezes and Polymorphs.

In the end he got all his cooldowns, evocated and took me down during a single succesfull Deep Freeze featured with le Ice Lance spamming. If he were less predictable and knew how to fake cast, the outcome would be a lot worse for me.

I guess I don't have a room to complain as a warrior, I can deal huge amounts of damage and have decent amount of control. I can often kill a target without letting him act at all, but against mages it saddens me that I could as well give up if I were ever to face a frost mage. I wouldn't mind if my class was nerfed a little, but I would demand it to mages as well.

[Managarm_4]

Mages, Feral Druids coming close =P

[dulci5]

Right now I'd say Warrior or DK, both their damage is out of this world.. Please for the love of all that is holy, do something about throwdown :/

[Deleted]

There is no single most overpowered class if you sit back and analyze it things will become clear. Some classes are just better scaling with gear. Classes that rely on sheer power ie Warriors, Paladins for example will rule in 1st seasons, later they will be replaced with classes that have more utility ie Rogues/Priest/Druids. So if you speak of now then Warriors and Paladins because their mechanics support poor gear.

[Managarm_4]

There is no single most overpowered class if you sit back and analyze it things will become clear. Some classes are just better scaling with gear. Classes that rely on sheer power ie Warriors, Paladins for example will rule in 1st seasons, later they will be replaced with classes that have more utility ie Rogues/Priest/Druids. So if you speak of now then Warriors and Paladins because their mechanics support poor gear.

OP not only means Big Numbers.

Mages have Survivability, Mobility, Amazing damage output and the best CC this game has if you ask me, several ways to nova you, 1 stun, ice lance Spam, and Ring of Frost......they needed RoF amirite? ....

[Deleted]

OP not only means Big Numbers.

Mages have Survivability, Mobility, Amazing damage output and the best CC this game has if you ask me, several ways to nova you, 1 stun, ice lance Spam, and Ring of Frost......they needed RoF amirite? ....

+ blink folowed by sprint now
+ hero

[franto]

Frost mage is now like a rogue from range .... simple they got too many ways how to escape and control you. (especialy if you are meele)

[mordale]

+ blink folowed by sprint now
+ hero

don't forget an almost unbreakable freeze with their RoF which for some reason is re-freezing people, either that or 3 magi placed it exactly on top of each others ring.

[Kewi]

Eh, I dunno about paladins being strong...

Survivability, yes...
But mechanics of the new ret paladin make them rather weak... Especially if you have 1 stun removal CD/trinket and any form of snare or teleport.

They are very back-end loaded now and need a good ~8 seconds to use their primary ability, Templar's Verdict, and another 8 seconds between them... with a ~11% chance per auto attack to 'proc' another if they choose to use it instead of a heal (which is about 2 'rolls' between 'standard' TV's at that 11%... if you stand still and never get out of their auto attack range)

My best burst so far without wings using a 346 weapon has been ~65k, which is rather phenomenal as my crit chance is under 9% and both of them have to crit for that. Usually I do ~30k in such scenarios (using a proc'ed TV followed by a normal TV)

I don't really consider using 3 min CD's as determining a class's power, as I do BG's, not arena.. but if you want to consider those, just CC the paladin with wings, he just used every significant CD and DPS trinket he had and will hit like a wet noodle from then on.

[Deleted]

OP not only means Big Numbers.

Mages have Survivability, Mobility, Amazing damage output and the best CC this game has if you ask me, several ways to nova you, 1 stun, ice lance Spam, and Ring of Frost......they needed RoF amirite? ....

I was not talking about big numbers, you misunderstood me. Check ratings in 2v2 first five teams have total of 3 Warriors and 3 Paladins, zero Mages. In 3v3 first 6 teams have total of 3 warriors and 2 Paladins, one Mage. In 5v5 first 6 teams have a Paladin and guess what zero Mages.

Mages maybe good but they contribute less to the team, they are rather solo class godly in duels but they fail in Arenas. The same was in TBC first season Paladin/Warrior rule. Next seasons Paladin was worst healer and Warriors where only carried by Druids. And do not bring WotLK cause it was broken.

[Naard]

Where are you checking teams since AJ is still not updated?

[Managarm_4]

I was not talking about big numbers, you misunderstood me. Check ratings in 2v2 first five teams have total of 3 Warriors and 3 Paladins, zero Mages. In 3v3 first 6 teams have total of 3 warriors and 2 Paladins, one Mage. In 5v5 first 6 teams have a Paladin and guess what zero Mages.

Mages maybe good but they contribute less to the team, they are rather solo class godly in duels but they fail in Arenas. The same was in TBC first season Paladin/Warrior rule. Next seasons Paladin was worst healer and Warriors where only carried by Druids. And do not bring WotLK cause it was broken.

no no, dont get me wrong, I did understand your point of view regarding arenas, and like you stated before, bursty classes get replaced with classes with more utility, hence why on WotLK some warriors had to go Prot, lots of stuns, more UTILITY like you said. OP some may say yea, but Utility is utility nonetheless.

My point was just stating that the mage class has EVERYTHING useful for arenas, Survivability, Burst, Bloodlust, INSANE CC.

Only my 2 cents though, =P.

[Archmonduu]

Ferals... they just do so much damage, and are a pain to kill (GG bearfrom LS FR)

[Deleted]

Warriors, DK's (pwn any healers so easily) and Mages need to be toned down slightly.

[Rukus]

Mages, Ferals and Warriors are gods right now in pvp.

Weakest pvp class/spec? Ret Paladins followed closely by hunters.

[Bahll]

Frost mages, even the mediocre players can toy with me as a warrior, few arena matches that ended up 1v1 against frost mages were almost always lost.

The latest caused the most rage, because the mage had something like 1k health, we managed to kill his partner, but also my partner died in the progress. He could just freeze me in place and kite me while blinking away and gaining speed buff. He got to LoS me multiple times and got time to drink. For 5 minutes I managed to keep him at 10-20% with Rend, also I managed to reflect most of his Deep Freezes and Polymorphs.

In the end he got all his cooldowns, evocated and took me down during a single succesfull Deep Freeze featured with le Ice Lance spamming. If he were less predictable and knew how to fake cast, the outcome would be a lot worse for me.

I guess I don't have a room to complain as a warrior, I can deal huge amounts of damage and have decent amount of control. I can often kill a target without letting him act at all, but against mages it saddens me that I could as well give up if I were ever to face a frost mage. I wouldn't mind if my class was nerfed a little, but I would demand it to mages as well.

Frost mage has almost always been the hard counter to a warrior. You need to be close, and we keep you far away. Its not the ideal situation for you. On the other hand, a good feral druid is terrifying to a frost mage. Shifting out of every snare i can toss at them.

[817]

thumbs up if you have an ele shaman and thinks it is really gimped right now.

oh wait this is not youtube

[Nynde]

Feral Druids.

[Barcode]

0 votes for priests.. so true so true