Nerfs

[Outlaw]

Do you guys think unholy dks will be getting nerfed anytime soon.
I thought frost spec was op right now?

[Sinterz]

I could see blood boil getting "turned down" a bit. From what I have seen it is there AoE damage that is so OP compared to other classes.

[Deleted]

Both are fine, frost is way too bursty right now, but that'll be sorted out once people start to get some decent resilience.

[SoulPoetry]

I could see blood boil getting "turned down" a bit. From what I have seen it is there AoE damage that is so OP compared to other classes.

BB is fook all of DK aoe damage. 1 BB every 6-8 seconds after the initial 2, yay. frost aoe (which needs toning down imo) is like 90% Howling Blast. Unholy is DnD with diseases and BB with the latter doing the worst damage of the 3.

to OP: in pvp or pve?

[Alexiaa]

The only "nerf" unholy will get will be removing the fact that DW is optimal for unholy in top tiers of raid gear

[Deleted]

i could see a necrotic strike nerf. i am unholy with 2k resilience right now and stuff i necro on just dies. the spell itself is not op, but spamming it is way too powerful. i think giving it a 2 seconds cooldown could fix that so you have to line up other moves in between. i just hope they won't come up with a duration or simple healing amount nerf, as that would screw it ultimately BUT when spammed and i'm not even thinking how useless it would become for frost then.

my role in the rated bg ultimately was getting necrotics on our warriors target ^^

[SoulPoetry]

is it still stacking infinitely? if so, then obviously that needs fixing. some multiple of AP limit of absorbtion would be implemented i'm guessing.

[Mufasaprime]

i really dont see a huge nerf coming anytime soon since our utility was pretty much slapped healing wise, which seemed to be the only issue, howling blast doesnt hit that hard, it does when its done in AV during a turtle push slapping 5-7 players, but 2v2,3v3,5v5 not a problem and most bgs you will be in 15v15 they will not (hopefully not) be all clomped together

and thanks to our runes being nerfed, the only time we can "spam" it, which is a horrible idea is burning empowered rune weapon (5min cd for you non dks) which is another 2 shots, but even then it doesnt hit that hard, my frost strikes and OB hit usally twice as hard

[Alsonia]

The only "nerf" unholy will get will be removing the fact that DW is optimal for unholy in top tiers of raid gear

Simple solution would be take Nerves of cold steed and make it a baseline frost ability. Bam done.

[antitux]

Necrotic strike in pvp is the only thing I could see getting a nerf, by simply capping the stacks.
Otherwise I don't know of much that needs to be nerfed. It would be great if they'd finally fix crit scaling on your ghouls/gargoyles though.

[Deleted]

Well... i only see 2 parts of overpower for dk's right now. The first thing is blood tanks, they cant get killed in pvp or pve, else frost spamming HWB at +2 targets.

[uka]

i think in arena season 10, necrotic strike will be changed to an flat 10% healing reduction and dark simulacrum will be dispellable.
that is all what is needed to be changed in pvp

[Deleted]

The only "nerf" unholy will get will be removing the fact that DW is optimal for unholy in top tiers of raid gear

I really hope we keep this ^^,
We dont need end tier for this btw, many people say raid heroric gear is needed for this, but i have done some tests and its not the case at all. Right now its really great to play too, cause of the lack of hit and exp on our gear. Iknow you don't need the exp as 2H unholy ether but with DW unholy you can obtain a lot of haste cause of the low hit rating needed for DW.

---------- Post added 2010-12-23 at 08:57 PM ----------

i think in arena season 10, necrotic strike will be changed to an flat 10% healing reduction and dark simulacrum will be dispellable.
that is all what is needed to be changed in pvp

What, able to dispell dark sim? I really don't see why they should do this. It might be "overpower" right now, but its just a matter of time before people start to track it or something in arena and use something useless so the dk waist his ability.

[Dette]

I dont think they should make Dark Sim dispellable at all! All of the rest of our abilities our dispellable (even our snare) so I think our 1m CD ability should NOT at all be dispellable that would be quite unfair for us I think, most classes get a very nice offensive CD.
As for Necrotic Strike? There is a limit of the amount of stacks we can get, it costs 1 Unholy rune so the only way we can get a lot of stacks is to turn Blood/Frost Runes into Death runes and that requires set up with Blood Strike usually, and then using Empower Rune Weapon but thats a 5 minute CD! So how do we get "unlimited" stacks if we are limited by our resources? Personally.. I am excited that we can actually put pressure on casters as Unholy, before I always felt like I had nice sustained damage but no one ever actually died...

I am really wondering why so many DK's think they should be nerfed! Be HAPPY that you got abilities that are actually fun and unique and dont let Blizz take it away from us!

[Cursedfate]

unholy with low gear is really op confronted with the other classes, i think i t will be nerfed

[Nyanmaru]

What, able to dispell dark sim? I really don't see why they should do this. It might be "overpower" right now, but its just a matter of time before people start to track it or something in arena and use something useless so the dk waist his ability.

It's not wasted if you make the mage self-interrupt his polymorph, then cast an ice lance (or slow fall or whatever) and then start to poly again, it's almost as effective as an interrupt and just perfect to get your Mind Freeze off CD.
Either you steal the spell or you make the caster stop casting a spell for 2-3 GCDs it's a win/win situation for you.

[kerwyn]

Howling blast is hilariously absurd. I had a 30k crit the other day with my trinket on(+1400 mastery) and execute range.

[Deleted]

nope unholy wont be nerfed if they nerf dks it will be frost tree.

[Needonboots]

It depends how they nerf Frost to if I'll personally care though. Atm I prefer 2 handed frost in pvp, so I can use HB + Necro Strike with my UF runes, due to Necro Strike scaling, and the absorbtion not caring about Resilience. DW can't effectively use NS, so have to really on extra "nuke" which gets less viable as people get more resilience. So if they nerf Obliterate, no worries <3

[Deleted]

I could see blood boil getting "turned down" a bit. From what I have seen it is there AoE damage that is so OP compared to other classes.

What? Are you serious?

---------- Post added 2010-12-24 at 08:02 PM ----------

i could see a necrotic strike nerf. i am unholy with 2k resilience right now and stuff i necro on just dies. the spell itself is not op, but spamming it is way too powerful. i think giving it a 2 seconds cooldown could fix that so you have to line up other moves in between. i just hope they won't come up with a duration or simple healing amount nerf, as that would screw it ultimately BUT when spammed and i'm not even thinking how useless it would become for frost then.

my role in the rated bg ultimately was getting necrotics on our warriors target ^^

Or they could just cap the stacks? Rune-tied abilities indirectly have cooldowns.

---------- Post added 2010-12-24 at 08:04 PM ----------

Well... i only see 2 parts of overpower for dk's right now. The first thing is blood tanks, they cant get killed in pvp or pve, else frost spamming HWB at +2 targets.

Lol. If you can't kill a Blood Tank you're doing something wrong.

---------- Post added 2010-12-24 at 08:06 PM ----------

i think in arena season 10, necrotic strike will be changed to an flat 10% healing reduction and dark simulacrum will be dispellable.
that is all what is needed to be changed in pvp

Why would they make DarkSim Dispellable?

---------- Post added 2010-12-24 at 08:07 PM ----------

nope unholy wont be nerfed if they nerf dks it will be frost tree.

Meh if they remove NoCS then it kills DW Unholy and basically nerfs Unholy's damage by 2%-ish.