Horde sucks at pvp?

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I guess the title says its all..
This aint a QQ post but really, now i have been playing PvE since Cata release and was really pleased with how hard the new content is. But i have been gearing my warrior lately trying to get full PvP gear and are missing the last pieces to be done with whole set. Amazingly it have taken sooooo long time since i have expirienced loose after loose after loose, like 9 out of 10 random battle grounds was loose. Sometimes i even try to tell people how to win the BG but have never expirienced anyone listen. I know the win/loose was around 50% in vanilla and BC but now its just loose loose loose.. have all pro PvP players rerolled alliance? or are Horde just too filled with kids that cant read english?
Would really like to know if im the only one that have expirienced this or just me who are lucky with the battle grounds i get into?

[Destrozo]

Alliance is the new Horde XD

[Mufasaprime]

I guess the title says its all..
This aint a QQ post but really, now i have been playing PvE since Cata release and was really pleased with how hard the new content is. But i have been gearing my warrior lately trying to get full PvP gear and are missing the last pieces to be done with whole set. Amazingly it have taken sooooo long time since i have expirienced loose after loose after loose, like 9 out of 10 random battle grounds was loose. Sometimes i even try to tell people how to win the BG but have never expirienced anyone listen. I know the win/loose was around 50% in vanilla and BC but now its just loose loose loose.. have all pro PvP players rerolled alliance? or are Horde just too filled with kids that cant read english?
Would really like to know if im the only one that have expirienced this or just me who are lucky with the battle grounds i get into?

heres the thing, the horde from vanilla - BC where known as the destroyers of pvp, usally being ontop of the servers pvp activity (with the exception for a few servers) then wotlk came out with faction change, allowing every alliance member who wished they rolled horde but didnt want to reroll to pay a very small nominal fee to come to the good side, essentially watering down the horde as the alliance headstrong pvpers stayed and reaped the benefit of 0-3min que times

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oh and also because the alliance have like 5bajillion healers that bg where the horde see 0 healers at WSG 80% of the time

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But then again Mufasax, the horde should still have great PvP players and not just the noobs from alliance side which have factíon changed.. and again, the thing that i wrote about people not reading the chat when a player who knows how to win actualy trying to tell people how to win nice and smooth.. its one of the things that have amazed me the most, is how i for an example are in an EoTS BG with 14 other random people i dont know. I try to tell them that 3 bases is win and then they can begin think about the flag, but still 10 moroons run into the middle from start and stays there for the whole battle even though we are 3 people spamming in /BG that they should stop trying to cap flag and begin to cap some towers.. i just get tired of loosing the same way over and over again cause people play BG's without even having the mind on winning the battle..

[Deleted]

If you think that the horde sucks at PvP, try playing with all the Worgen idiots who hopped onto our side.

[Mufasaprime]

But then again Mufasax, the horde should still have great PvP players and not just the noobs from alliance side which have factíon changed.. and again, the thing that i wrote about people not reading the chat when a player who knows how to win actualy trying to tell people how to win nice and smooth.. its one of the things that have amazed me the most, is how i for an example are in an EoTS BG with 14 other random people i dont know. I try to tell them that 3 bases is win and then they can begin think about the flag, but still 10 moroons run into the middle from start and stays there for the whole battle even though we are 3 people spamming in /BG that they should stop trying to cap flag and begin to cap some towers.. i just get tired of loosing the same way over and over again cause people play BG's without even having the mind on winning the battle..

yeah it can be a bit annoying watching the entire bg group run for the flag, talking before the fight might help, but even then, how great you are at strats wont make up how stupid they can be, one downside of the horde, we can be a bit headstrong, wanting to just rush into the fight without considering the objective

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If you think that the horde sucks at PvP, try playing with all the Worgen idiots who hopped onto our side.

hey, its not my fault the alliance wanted another rp character, and i have YET to see a worganfreeman

[OlSom]

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My 70 warr had pretty good BGs so far. The only hax i have is that i always queue with my bro (spriest).

EDIT: We're gnomes (:

[warcrimes]

yeah it can be a bit annoying watching the entire bg group run for the flag, talking before the fight might help, but even then, how great you are at strats wont make up how stupid they can be, one downside of the horde, we can be a bit headstrong, wanting to just rush into the fight without considering the objective

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hey, its not my fault the alliance wanted another rp character, and i have YET to see a worganfreeman

ive seen atleast 12 variations of it on my server alone not counting ppl in bgs form other servers

[GKLeatherCraft]

Im on Defias Brotherhood EU, and for the horde there its just win win win, i play alliance and they seem to play exactly how you see Horde playing!

[Mufasaprime]

ive seen atleast 12 variations of it on my server alone not counting ppl in bgs form other servers

D: not fair! i made a macro just for worganfreeman /sh but i have yet to use it, it just sit there, in the cornor of my UI, alone.. wanting to be pressed

[Deleted]

Im on Defias Brotherhood EU, and for the horde there its just win win win, i play alliance and they seem to play exactly how you see Horde playing!

Didnt they change BG's to be across all servers?

[Hypnozis]

The main 2 words to describe this is ... Faction Change... this allowed people from Alliance who kinda stunk at PVP to go to the horde side to try and win more battles and when it actually caused the horde side to get worse.

[Freshouttajail]

But then again Mufasax, the horde should still have great PvP players and not just the noobs from alliance side which have factíon changed.. and again, the thing that i wrote about people not reading the chat when a player who knows how to win actualy trying to tell people how to win nice and smooth.. its one of the things that have amazed me the most, is how i for an example are in an EoTS BG with 14 other random people i dont know. I try to tell them that 3 bases is win and then they can begin think about the flag, but still 10 moroons run into the middle from start and stays there for the whole battle even though we are 3 people spamming in /BG that they should stop trying to cap flag and begin to cap some towers.. i just get tired of loosing the same way over and over again cause people play BG's without even having the mind on winning the battle..

Probably because 3 base is not as easy as 2 base + flag. I was horde before, doing that shit you just said, losing everytime, people refusing to understand thee simplest thing, it's easier to hold 2 bases and grab flag than it is to hold 3 base decently because your people are more spread out, it's easier to lose a base. While you try to defend, they have an easier time grabbing the flag, they end up with 2 bases and flag control, and there you lose. So yes, holding 2 bases and flag is a lot better (safer and makes for a faster win most of the time, except 4 cap) than trying to just hold 3.

I transfered to alliance a while ago, for many reasons, not just pvp, but yeah, we do 2 base + flag and win while your dudes are running all over the map trying to get a third base, getting picked off even by the flag carrier.

[Armida]

There should be a pvp quest line for sure. You should be guided throu the pvp goals for each battleground BEFORE you even were allowed to sign up for one.

[Lythos]

it really depends on the server. alliance dominates sargeras

[GKLeatherCraft]

Didnt they change BG's to be across all servers?

No idea, but horde win 90% of the time on my realm =/ well, at 85 anyway, Ally win most ive done at low levels

[Pieterman]

Horde's racials are slightly more pvp oriented, so I don't think so.
For pvp racials on the alliance side, theres escape artist, every man for himself and worgen's sprint. The other ones are great, but not pvp racials.
For the horde side, theres a aoe stun, aoe silence, a cooldown that(from what I understand) stacks with your trinket, a jump forward, a fear immunity and whatever trolls have.

[Rageissues]

On Daggerspine US, the horde used to dominate WG because they outnumbered us 10:1. Thanks faction change.

Now however, we control TB for like a week before Horde takes it for one round, then lose it 10 mins into the next fight. Suck it you no skilled, "safety in numbers", sons of bitches! But that's just this server, I don't need 70% of mmo-champ telling me I'm wrong.

[Auro]

heres the thing, the horde from vanilla - BC where known as the destroyers of pvp, usally being ontop of the servers pvp activity (with the exception for a few servers) then wotlk came out with faction change, allowing every alliance member who wished they rolled horde but didnt want to reroll to pay a very small nominal fee to come to the good side, essentially watering down the horde as the alliance headstrong pvpers stayed and reaped the benefit of 0-3min que times

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oh and also because the alliance have like 5bajillion healers that bg where the horde see 0 healers at WSG 80% of the time

Everything I was going to say.

[coldbear]

A little bit of faction pride and cross-faction accusations warm my bitter cold grumpy old heart.

Thank you for this.