i raid sometimes because I like getting achieves. I like getting kick ass gear. A lot of the bosses and stories are just really freaking sweet (Illidan is the coolest imo). But more than anything else I like it most once you get that really tight, patient group that is willing to just figure it out at a reasonable pace while having fun and not getting all freaked out. Its about teamwork and having fun, thats the bottom line for me. Once people start getting mad and impatient with each other the fun factor starts going down FAST.