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with mage tier the glyph problem doesnt exist anymore so its more along the lines of which is better.
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Thread: FFB with dark intent?
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2011-01-28, 07:38 AM #21Blademaster
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2011-01-28, 12:42 PM #22Old God
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Fireball, plain and simple.
Originally Posted by badishi
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2011-01-28, 01:00 PM #23High Overlord
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Here you have some actual data in 372 BIS gear, long fight+movement (with calculated Ignite munching) and it shows FFB 829 DPS behind FB.
http://www.manoutoftime.org/misc/sim...long_move.html
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2011-01-28, 01:05 PM #24Immortal
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Well if your main PvE spec is very Mastery reliant, then I'm guessing going FFB would be better so you don't have to regear?
Right? Or does FFB not wan't mastery? I imagine it'd want it. Just asking so I can go spec it right now. XD
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2011-01-28, 01:07 PM #25The Insane
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Gearing for mastery will lower your DPS, but if you're too lazy to regear to raise your DPS then using a lower DPS main nuke isn't going to hurt you a lot anyway
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2011-01-28, 01:13 PM #26Dreadlord
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Isnt it rare for a mage to recieve dark intent in the first place? since the lock would go for either SP, holy priest or RestoDruid? and in the case of those absent, i can imagine that mage lies further down the list.
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2011-01-28, 01:19 PM #27Old God
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It goes Spriest, Boomkin, Fire Mage. Originally Posted by TwistedSkull
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2011-01-28, 01:24 PM #28Immortal
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Gah what complements mastery? : / Originally Posted by Imnick
And don't call it laziness. Why on earth would I farm a second set for an offspec as a DPS? I'd rather spend the time gearing the other useful non-DPS alts I have than worrying about an FFB offspec! O_o
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2011-01-28, 02:59 PM #29Old God
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There isn't enough mastery to put FFB ahead of Fireball. At least not in this tier. Originally Posted by Bombkirby
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2011-01-28, 05:08 PM #30Field Marshal
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Luckily for me there are 3 raiding locks in my guild and 1 spriest, 1 boomkin, and then me
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2011-01-28, 05:36 PM #31High Overlord
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1. is ffb better then fireball? : no fireball is slightly better dps (while selfbuffed and with no extra debuffs)
2. is ffb better then fireball with DI? : no ffb is not better if you have DI. but it brings the numbers very close and sometimes puts ffb on top.
why? cuz its another dot that can critt and refresh the duration / stacks of DI. meaning you have a pritty high chance that the full stack of DI (3/3) never falls of.
3. is the advantage of this gain enought to switch from fireball to ffb when i have my lock-pal around? : depends on fight. if you can impact to more then 1 add ffb is superior to fireball (even without DI). if there is only 1 target? well gogo fireball!
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2011-01-28, 05:41 PM #32Old God
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FFB DoT munching Ignite<<<<<<<<<Fireball.
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2011-01-28, 05:57 PM #33High Overlord
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:c yea whats up with that. same shit from flame orb Originally Posted by Swizzle
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2011-01-28, 07:15 PM #34Mechagnome
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Are feral druids no longer highly competitive for a DI target? Last I heard (weeeeeeks ago) was Spriest, Feral (cat) Druid, Boomkin, Fire Mage Originally Posted by Swizzle
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2011-01-28, 07:17 PM #35High Overlord
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The crit of Fireball makes it much more appealing.
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2011-01-28, 08:17 PM #36Old God
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I don't think they benefit as much from Haste as the listed classes do, if at all. Hell, they might, but I don't know much about Feral PvE. Originally Posted by Potato Bus
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2011-01-28, 10:00 PM #37Warchief
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What does mage tier have to do with anything? Originally Posted by badishi
2 piece: Increases pyroblast crit by 5%.
4 piece: Reduced FB and FFB cast time by 10%.
They both get the same gains.Paipan|Monk|Perenolde-US
Kyam|Shaman|Perenolde-US
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2011-01-28, 10:03 PM #38The Patient
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I choose C. The shadowpriest with dark intent is more dps.
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2011-01-29, 04:16 AM #39Mechagnome
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I think it was more based on their amount of dps that is periodic damage, plus the haste may increase their energy regen. in the same boat as you, no clue here about feral >.> Originally Posted by Swizzle
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2011-01-30, 09:33 AM #40Blademaster
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wow as my name states i am badishi. i mistakenly mixed the 2 and 4 piece up slightly my bad my bad napkin math was done while driving with iphone... yaaaaay traffic.
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