Bring Thrall Back!

[PhilG]

Garrosh has no nipples...

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/802287

[Jiraden]

Does anyone else think those huge beast horns (I'm presuming they are from a giant elekk or something) look retarded and serve no purpose? I guess giving him a dunce cap or stupid helmet (that 70s show lols) would make it to obvious he's an idiot.

No. I think they look badass.

[Katchii]

In game Garrosh looks like a retard...like a child wearing his big daddies clothes trying to look badass....
In the loading screen pictures, Garrosh looks like a beast and awesome as hell....

Anyone seen Aladdin the Disney movie? (yeah been a while for me but I do remember one quote)

I think Garrosh's brain is probably stuck saying "phenominal warlike power...with an itty bitty living space.."

[Deleted]

Thrall is the coolest and most important character of World of Warcraft IMO.

[Tahkmaul]

Yes. Thrall please.

[Azivalla]

Thrall isn't coming back. Clear and loud that Garrosh is to take the new responsibility to heart and become the leader the Horde needs, which isn't Thrall at all.

[Demonidze]

Hellscream is like a regular brute, like those bodyguards, in gangster movies, big, strong, and dumb as hell. i want Thrall back!

[Doombringer]

Last I saw Garrosh he was sending his air support to start a fight with the Alliance, leaving his airship open to attack by a flight of twilight dragons. He's supposed to have wised up?

This is important. I hope people took note, when they experienced it. Garrosh sent his escort away to fight Alliance ships... simply because they were there. They did not open fire on his air fleet. In his zeal to make an impromptu attack on the Alliance, he left himself open to attack. Many people died, the incursion into the Highlands was fouled up, and only thanks to an internal Dragonmaw resistance plot did we manage to get a proper foothold there.

He's a nitwit and he needs to die. I hope Thrall comes back, removes Garrosh, and realizes there can be no peace with the Alliance (especially NOW). The necessity of war will make him a more hardened, but wizened, leader of the Horde because of it.

[Lancer]

Garrosh's reign won't be for long....just wait till the end of cata Thrall will be back.
Thrall>Garrosh but I honestly...I like Garrosh's hatred for the alliance :-)

[Azivalla]

Garrosh's reign won't be for long....just wait till the end of cata Thrall will be back.

That makes Thrall believing in Garrosh to lead entirely pointless. Thrall always believed Garrosh had potential. He put him in charge for a damn reason. For him just to waltz back after he left his people is not only insulting to Garrosh but to the players. He has to commit completely to his shaman duties, as Aggra said. He cannot play Warchief and be a proper shaman of the Earthern ring.

Aggra says: Go'el. You cannot continue to ride the line between Warchief and Shaman. The time will come when you must commit to one side fully. That time is fast approaching.

And its pretty obvious he'll turn to his Shaman duties..

[noteworthynerd]

Sorry if this has all be posted, didn't feel like reading through.

I personally subscribe to the belief that Thrall will become the next Earthwarder, the title previously held by Neltharion (aka Deathwing), the person in charge of looking over the world of Azeroth and its deep places. Once we defeat Deathwing at the end of the expansion, the position will be open, and because all of the Black Dragonflight has been eradicated or driven insane, there will be no dragon to take up the mantle (unless a dragon is retconned in). Thrall, as perhaps the most powerful living Shaman, would make the logical best choice.

But even if this is not the case, I can not see Thrall returning as Warchief. He believes in Garrosh, and despite Garrosh's failures, he is beginning to come into his own as Warchief, for an explanation of why I say that, read here: http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/01/16/kn...er-forsake-it/

[GennGreymane]

im fine with garrosh as warchief

conflict is a decent story line. gilneas and silverpine are what im talking about x100

plus garrosh dosnt have to have a reason to hate the alliance. hes reasons are motivated purly by imperialism,conquest, and resources.

why do so many ppl in wow think the entire horde/ally conflict needs to be a petty fight between ppl wronged by the opposite faction. the foot soldiers have this story it gives them drive. The leaders have other concerns.

[darkwarrior42]

im fine with garrosh as warchief

conflict is a decent story line. gilneas and silverpine are what im talking about x100

plus garrosh dosnt have to have a reason to hate the alliance. hes reasons are motivated purly by imperialism,conquest, and resources.

How about Varian's Wrynn unflagging desire to destroy every man, woman, and child in the horde that doesn't somehow make him feel sympathetic for 5 seconds?

If Garrosh doesn't have a good reason to hate the Alliance, wait 5 seconds, the Alliance will come up with something.

Edit: I understand you said he doesn't have to have a reason, I'm merely saying that whether he needs one or not, he'll have one.

[Malagan]

Does anyone else think those huge beast horns (I'm presuming they are from a giant elekk or something) look retarded and serve no purpose? I guess giving him a dunce cap or stupid helmet (that 70s show lols) would make it to obvious he's an idiot.

They are the bones of the Pit Lord his father, Grom Hellscream, killed in order to free the Horde.
They represent the Horde's struggle for freedom from the tyrant demons.

[GennGreymane]

How about Varian's Wrynn unflagging desire to destroy every man, woman, and child in the horde that doesn't somehow make him feel sympathetic for 5 seconds?

If Garrosh doesn't have a good reason to hate the Alliance, wait 5 seconds, the Alliance will come up with something.

Edit: I understand you said he doesn't have to have a reason, I'm merely saying that whether he needs one or not, he'll have one.

he will eventually get a real reason because the typical fantasy fans will call fowl and claim how its not possible to dislike another faction with out years of torment under them.

garroshs best reason is mainly in the heart of war the alliance is preventing the horde from getting what they need to survive (resources)

[shockerxl]

That makes Thrall believing in Garrosh to lead entirely pointless. Thrall always believed Garrosh had potential. He put him in charge for a damn reason. For him just to waltz back after he left his people is not only insulting to Garrosh but to the players. He has to commit completely to his shaman duties, as Aggra said. He cannot play Warchief and be a proper shaman of the Earthern ring.

Aggra says: Go'el. You cannot continue to ride the line between Warchief and Shaman. The time will come when you must commit to one side fully. That time is fast approaching.

And its pretty obvious he'll turn to his Shaman duties..

true! but after deathwing is gone will he really need to sit around and do nothing with the earthen ring? he will back to the horde. At one point i even remeber reading blizzard saying that Garrosh is a part of Thrall's story which leads me to believe garrosh will either die at some point or do something dumb like his dear old dad

[Bytch]

Who else was there genuinely to take over? Saurfang imo doesn't count since he's probably dealing with the loss of a loved one and thus in no condition to take up such a burden.

EDIT: After reading Addamus' post, Vol'jin seems a better option imo (since I completely forgot about him until just now).

The Tauren Chief Cairne would've made a better choice than Garrosh.

[Deleted]

Garrosh was appointed acting Warchief.

Thrall's coming back at one point or another.

[Alfador]

Pfft. Silly horde. Who wants a leader who lacks consistent nipple placement...

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...issing-Nipples

[bov]

Without trying to sound presumptuous, I can only assume you don't know the story behind Warcraft III? (my apologies if you do). However, throughout the game and story Thrall almost single handedly brings all the clans together under one united banner and creates the Horde we know and love today. Thrall symbolises wisdom and consideration, which is/was a good move away from the savagery and general neanderthal-ism that previously riddled the stereotypical Orc mentality.

Comparing Thrall to Garrosh is like comparing Martin Luther King to Che Guevara (maybe that's a personal opinion, I just think Che is highly over-valued. My apologies if you're an Argentinian Marxist). Garrosh has done absolutely nothing other than be the son of a weak minded fool (Again, probably personal opinion. I know a lot of people like Grom).

Also as a quick side note, that picture you posted of Garrosh has been translated terribly to the ingame model we see now. In game he genuinely looks like a complete oaf, which is apt considering his assumed brain capacity.

This...wow...this