My first vote kick ... over a camel?

[Chronokiller]

Hello MMO-Champ users. I wanted to ask your opinion on why I was kicked from a dungeon, so let me set up the scenario.

I was in a regular Lost City of the Tol'vir run playing a frost mage. He's appropriately geared for the dungeon, mostly 333 with one or two quest greens. I was pulling what I thought to be decent dps for a regular dungeon (about 7k dps). We weren't even using cc or marking, just fast pulls and AoE. We downed the first 2 bosses without a hitch.

Now of the other 4 players, three were guildies and the fourth was my brother who was healing and has excellent gear. I couldn't understand why the guildies were even running a regular because they were all geared for raiding and as such, pulling very high dps. "Why waste time in a regular?", I thought.

The kick comes on the trash pulls right in front of the 3rd boss, with the non elite camels. One of their guildies pulled a camel along with the main trash pack that we were killing, so I tabbed to it and killed it along with everything else. The tank then types in party, "kill camel = kick" , "lol". I had no idea what he meant by that at first, but then I see a loading screen and think, "Am I dc'ing?" But no, my brother, who's still in the group says they kicked me. I was stunned and speechless. trying to think of why they would kick me over a camel that they pulled!

Needless to say my brother left the group after that. So please help me understand what or why I was kicked. Were they just being elite jerks? Or did I fail in some way?

This was my first kick from a group ever on any of my toons. I've tanked, healed and dps'd since before TBC and consider myself to be knowledgeable in those roles. I am polite to others and try to be the guy looking out for others in the group. We hadn't even talked much, it was one of those "silent" runs.

TLDR: I joined an overgeared mostly guild group in a regular Lost City run. Kill a camel. Get vote kicked... Why?

[Vladinator]

They probably replaced you for a friend that needed gear. Remember, this is why vote system is being changed (post) to avoid people forming guild/friend groups and kicking the 1 or 2 people that join randomly -just in order to replace and invite another friend.

That's what I think happened. The camel had nothing to do with your removal.

[Deleted]

Two camels in a tiny car, mate... two camels...

[Deleted]

Um.. why did your brother kick you? (If you don't know, the latest hotfix made it so that a group of 3 people can't kick someone without the other of the two randoms concenting.)

[Deleted]

Because they can. I cannot see any valid reasons for them to kick you for killing a camel. They were probably good around on Vent and decided to kick "the camel hater". The only explanation I can think of. I in no way support this, but maybe this gives you some clarification that you were in no way at fault, and those guys were just jerks.

[Moistie]

They were running normals for quick rep runs. They didn't need you or the healer for the run as you are both replaced almost instantly when they have a tank. They were in a position of power and being douches of extreme douchery because they wouldn't have to wait.

[Mudkiper]

Camel's have feelings too...

[.Nensec]

the dungeon finder hotfix wont go live till next server restart, its not applied yet

[Ezzet]

Um.. why did your brother kick you? (If you don't know, the latest hotfix made it so that a group of 3 people can't kick someone without the other of the two randoms concenting.)

Eh what? A kick only requires 3 votes to pass.

[wvx]

.....May I teach you this. People are retarded, and they are dicks. Live with it.

As he said

[Freia]

Um.. why did your brother kick you? (If you don't know, the latest hotfix made it so that a group of 3 people can't kick someone without the other of the two randoms concenting.)

Hotfix probably was not implemented yet.

[epeeange]

Um.. why did your brother kick you? (If you don't know, the latest hotfix made it so that a group of 3 people can't kick someone without the other of the two randoms concenting.)

That hotfix requires realm restarts, which will most likely happen Tuesday.

OP-That is totally lame. Sorry to hear about those kind of jerks.

[Deleted]

did i read that wrong? or was you kicked in combat?

[Cerabret]

Hotfix probably was not implemented yet.

Nope, i believe the hotfix isn't taking effect until the next tuesday maintenance.

This is also a prime example of why harsher restrictions are being put in place, a large portion of the WoW community lacks the maturity and intelligence to be allowed the freedom some of these systems give them over other people.

[Chronokiller]

Um.. why did your brother kick you? (If you don't know, the latest hotfix made it so that a group of 3 people can't kick someone without the other of the two randoms concenting.)

I should also add, this happened on the day before yesterday. Which I believe is before the hotfix, no?

Edit: Several posters beat me to that explanation. Thanks

did i read that wrong? or was you kicked in combat?

No, it was after the pack was killed.

[Lolsteak]

Eh what? A kick only requires 3 votes to pass.

The patch notes, read them.

[noteworthynerd]

Were they just being elite jerks?

Yeah, pretty much...

[Deleted]

I should also add, this happened on the day before yesterday. Which I believe is before the hotfix, no?

I guess. But yeah, this is the reason blizzard made this stupid hotfix: A tiny minority of guilds are made up of only 12 year olds who enjoy to grief people. Before the hotfix, they did stuff like this. After hotfix, they go 2 per group and refuse to leave instead.

[Deleted]

That hotfix requires realm restarts, which will most likely happen Tuesday.

OP-That is totally lame. Sorry to hear about those kind of jerks.

Then why are people making topics about tank queue hopping still being an issue SINCE the hotfix?

[PetersenIII]

I guess. But yeah, this is the reason blizzard made this stupid hotfix: A tiny minority of guilds are made up of only 12 year olds who enjoy to grief people. Before the hotfix, they did stuff like this. After hotfix, they go >2 per group and refuse to leave or play instead.

Pretty much this.

But I don't see a readily-available solution to that problem. Other, obviously, than removing the timer on vote-kicks all together, which nullifies some of the new restrictions.