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    it's all about "making everything equal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynardine View Post
    Hardly a nerf. We got several buffs to compensate. We may pierce only 70% of enemy armor now, but Mortal Strike also hits 25% harder. Plus speccing into Imp Hamstring removes it from the GCD. Plus a raid-wide Last Stand?!
    I'm very happy with the changes. Stop focusing so much on the negative.
    Maybe some of use are not Arms? Just...maybe...

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    Not much of a nerf in general, considering they increased the damage of MS, OP, Imp. Slam and 2H-damage all over. Just a bit of balancing being done as usual.
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    How did the warrior get close enough to the person to reduce them to 25% in a single stun if the person isn't a baddie?
    You are so dumb.
    For real.

    If you are not running away from a warrior while stunned you are a baddie folks!


    OT: deserved "nerf" considering you will be compensated (they have to do it). I know you like pulling big numbers but 100% armor bypass was just too bursty at least in fury.
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    Kind of makes our scaling a bit of a joke when they're nerfing us without compensation each patch. Whats the point of having a class that scales well with this kind of thing going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmalya View Post
    Maybe some of use are not Arms? Just...maybe...
    Considering most of the people ITT are talking about PvP. Of course I'm not considering all the Fury re-roll kids. You can still blow people up, you just have to mash one more button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainOutland View Post
    Nice nerf to warriors -.-
    LOL. DUDE, they buffed the % of dmg to overpower AND mortal strike. ALSO have u read the improved hamstring? its INSANE, AND the reduced cd on charge !?!?!??!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora View Post
    Kind of makes our scaling a bit of a joke when they're nerfing us without compensation each patch. Whats the point of having a class that scales well with this kind of thing going on?
    You cant be possibly crying about the first scratch of 4.1 they came up with.

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    You cant be possibly crying about the first scratch of 4.1 they came up with.
    Let it go, it's just bads crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynardine View Post
    Wishful thinking I suppose. Edited the post so I don't get corrected another 20 times in this thread by other raging forum-goers.
    Forgive me for my ignorance.
    I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to come off as raging. I just hate misinformation. I still have a friend who thinks every class has a 1sec GCD. :3 And he's been playing longer than I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackangel209 View Post
    I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to come off as raging. I just hate misinformation. I still have a friend who thinks every class has a 1sec GCD. xD
    And I did not mean to post that twice, my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokka View Post
    You cant be possibly crying about the first scratch of 4.1 they came up with.
    I'm low on confidence in Blizzard's ability to manage Fury at this stage. You could make a case for them if they tried to do something with it but the figures were out but they've nerfed a fury ability and in no way compensated or even attempted to, which is worrying.

    What I'm going to predict.

    -> All these Arms changes are based around making it viable in PvP with no consideration for PvE.
    -> Once they notice Arms is destroying Fury in PvE they'll instinctively nerf Arms damage to bring them level.
    -> Arms ends up doing the same damage on live with a CS nerf, ditto Fury. A net loss for everyone.

    This is how these people work with regards warrior dps and I hope they'll prove me wrong but I doubt it.

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    And I did not mean to post that twice, my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora View Post
    I'm low on confidence in Blizzard's ability to manage Fury at this stage. You could make a case for them if they tried to do something with it but the figures were out but they've nerfed a fury ability and in no way compensated or even attempted to, which is worrying.

    What I'm going to predict.

    -> All these Arms changes are based around making it viable in PvP with no consideration for PvE.
    -> Once they notice Arms is destroying Fury in PvE they'll instinctively nerf Arms damage to bring them level.
    -> Arms ends up doing the same damage on live with a CS nerf, ditto Fury. A net loss for everyone.

    This is how these people work with regards warrior dps and I hope they'll prove me wrong but I doubt it.
    What I will predict:
    number 1- the dps loss from the CS nerf on Fury will be so little in overall dps that nobody will give two craps. Arms dps will maybe compete in pve. Maybe.
    number 2- there is no number 2.
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    So you lose 30% armor bypass.

    So if you are upset about that nerf... should you also want

    Mortal Strike now deals 175% weapon damage, up from 150%.
    Overpower now deals 145% weapon damage, up from 125%.
    Two-Handed Weapon Specialization (Mastery) now increases damage dealt with 2H weapons by 20%, up from 10%.
    Improved Hamstring now also reduces the global cooldown of Hamstring by 0.5/1 sec.
    Improved Slam now increases Slam's damage by 20/40%, up from 10/20%
    ... reversed?

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    I'm just wondering if this means I can finally raid as Arms like I wanted to from the start of the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynardine View Post
    I'm just wondering if this means I can finally raid as Arms like I wanted to from the start of the expansion.
    Obviously it's yet to be determined, but if nothing else, Blizzard is heading in the right direction.

    Edit: I just realized that I have well over 100 posts here...I should really have an avatar at this point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idontlikeyou View Post
    So you lose 30% armor bypass.

    So if you are upset about that nerf... should you also want



    ... reversed?

    Yes please, i couldent give a rats ass about an arena/pvp oriented spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodata View Post
    This is how love stories start. Good luck to you guys!

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    What I will predict:
    number 1- the dps loss from the CS nerf on Fury will be so little in overall dps that nobody will give two craps. Arms dps will maybe compete in pve. Maybe.
    number 2- there is no number 2.
    It already is, its doing quite well on Live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainOutland View Post
    Yes please, i couldent give a rats ass about an arena/pvp oriented spec.
    Petition thread?
    Petition thread.

    lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idontlikeyou View Post
    So you lose 30% armor bypass.

    So if you are upset about that nerf... should you also want



    ... reversed?
    yes please! since i am pve fury, this doesnt do shit for me. for me its only a nerf without compensation (so far)

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