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    building a new PC for fraps (need advice)

    Hi all,

    I am building a new PC with the Overclockers UK configure your own section and I am confused at to what CPU I will need to get for fraps to run on full-screen smoothly. I've already set out to get 8gb of RAM but I am still confused at to whether quad core processor or a six core.

    I already plan on getting 2 internal HDD's so fraps can run on it's own drive.

    If you guys could help me out with some specs that will run fraps full screen smoothly that would be brilliant!

    thanks in advance.

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    I use an intel I3 550 and it runs fine at 1680x1050. Mind you I record at 30fps which is pretty much the average. You will be fine going with a quad or hex.

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    if I go for one of the higher end quad cores I'll be fine then.

    thanks for your fast reply! now I can get buying

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    a 1TB WDC black or Spinpoint F3 as a secondary drive would be enough to record. If you want to go up to 60FPS recording for some reason, you would need a RAID0 array or an SSD to handle the I/O.

    Keep in mind no system can run a 25man raid at 60fps consistantly anyway.

    System itself, an i5 and 4gb of RAM is enough for running the game and recording at the same time. Extra memory, cores or HT capability will only help when editing and encoding the final product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asera View Post
    a 1TB WDC black or Spinpoint F3 as a secondary drive would be enough to record. If you want to go up to 60FPS recording for some reason, you would need a RAID0 array or an SSD to handle the I/O.

    Keep in mind no system can run a 25man raid at 60fps consistantly anyway.

    System itself, an i5 and 4gb of RAM is enough for running the game and recording at the same time. Extra memory, cores or HT capability will only help when editing and encoding the final product.
    This pretty much, get a raid0 array, still cheaper than SSD's and notably faster than normal.

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    Quite honestly, at this point, any new computer that is labeled as a gaming machine (i.e. not a Celeron) will meet your requirements for World of Warcraft + FRAPS

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    what's the difference between an intel cpu and an AMD?

    I've been mainly looking at AMD but if intel is significantly better I'll invest in that.

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    Quite honestly, at this point, any new computer that is labeled as a gaming machine (i.e. not a Celeron) will meet your requirements for World of Warcraft + FRAPS
    Bull. Crap.

    computers with the specs: Athlon II x2 250 with a HD 5770 are labeled as gaming computers. Just cause they can run every new game it doesnt mean they can do what you claimed. Your gonna need a 2nd HDD atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maro wak View Post
    what's the difference between an intel cpu and an AMD?

    I've been mainly looking at AMD but if intel is significantly better I'll invest in that.
    Right now Intel has superior architecture since AMD is a bit behind. For a new system I wouldn't invest in an AMD backbone right now.
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    ok for an Intel I'll have to stretch my budget a little more. Thanks for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asera View Post
    Right now Intel has superior architecture since AMD is a bit behind. For a new system I wouldn't invest in an AMD backbone right now.
    I thought I'd never see this day. :O
    But yea, sadly, it's true. I'm looking forward to Bulldozer being able to rattle the standards.

    Really.
    (I think I'll upgrade to a bulldozer or LGA2011 next, in any event. Depending on how refined they'll be)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisgoat View Post
    I thought I'd never see this day. :O
    But yea, sadly, it's true. I'm looking forward to Bulldozer being able to rattle the standards.

    Really.
    (I think I'll upgrade to a bulldozer or LGA2011 next, in any event. Depending on how refined they'll be)
    Just because I said that doesn't mean I hate my 1090T. P:
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    i have an amd phenom 2 quad core 3.2 ghz
    4gb RAM and im saving the file on same hdd and i notice no difference when frapsing and when not

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    I would suggest going for something like the i5-2500K for the CPU, its the best price/performance chip on the market by far at the moment. AMD currently has nothing on the market that compares to the intel sandy bridge CPU and until they release bulldozer they cannot be recommended when you compare the 2.
    It all depends on your budget as well, you could build a PC for $800+ using the i5, anything lower and i would suggest going with the i3. But don't go super cheap on the MoBo, get a P67 so that you can OC.

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    This is the only way I'd recommend an AMD system right now:

    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...s&promoid=1293

    955BE C3 and a motherboard for ~40 less than an i5 2500K with no motherboard. Total steal if you're on a tight budget.
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    Remember that the amount of power you need for FRAPS depends on various different settings:
    -Your in game resolution, which would be the resolution you are recording at, the higher the resolution, the more space you need per second of footage meaning you need a non-budget HDD, preferably a secondary one.
    -Your in game settings/surroundings. Sure, you will be fine FRAPsing WoW on your 5 year old celeron CPU if you are making an RP video on an empty private server in front of the Org AH, but if you are trying to record 25 man raid footage at high/ultra settings, then that's something else to consider.

    I would recommend nothing less than a quad core for FRAPS. If you're going to be strictly FRAPsing WoW raids, then Intel Sandy bridge is the only CPU you should even consider. If you plan to record at super low res (which nobody does) then you will be fine recording on the same hard drive. But, if you plan to record at a realistic resolution like at least 720p then you will need a separate internal, non budget 7.2k rpm, hard drive to record to.
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    The i3 2100 is capable of nice capture in BG's @30fps & 1680x1050 resolution with high/ultra settings too and this with a p67 mobo (so i can upgrade to a 2500k later in the year if bulldozer is a let down) so it is a good low budget solution. But it would really make all the difference if you choose the i5 2500k especially for raids as i think i would have to turn the i3 down to high/med settings to get decent 25 man footage.

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    I plan on getting an i5 quad core with 2 1TB internal HDD's, both 7200 rpm (one entirely for fraps). I also have a 1TB external which can be used to house finished videos to free up the second HDD's.

    I was just concerned that this wouldn't run Fraps smoothly on full-screen, would it run ok?

    also, my budget is around 700 pound which is about 1100$ if I am right.

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    £700 for everything or will you be re using OS , Monitor ect? Best places to shop in the UK are http://www.aria.co.uk/ and http://www.ebuyer.com/. i5 2500k is about £160 and the motherboard will set you back £130-£160 so you may have to be frugal with other components you purchase just dont skimp on motherboard or PSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisgoat View Post
    I thought I'd never see this day. :O
    But yea, sadly, it's true. I'm looking forward to Bulldozer being able to rattle the standards.

    Really.
    (I think I'll upgrade to a bulldozer or LGA2011 next, in any event. Depending on how refined they'll be)
    Dude, AMD has been behind since like first dual cores. I very highly doubt that Bulldozers will change that. They will propably bulldoze their way through apps that support 6-8 cores very nicely, but will still blow for gaming compared to Intel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DETdream View Post
    Quite honestly, at this point, any new computer that is labeled as a gaming machine (i.e. not a Celeron) will meet your requirements for World of Warcraft + FRAPS
    There are plenty of piece of shit computers being sold as "gaming computers" that barely even run WoW on medium settings. Get your facts straight before talking out of your arse.

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-13 at 03:08 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by maro wak View Post
    I plan on getting an i5 quad core with 2 1TB internal HDD's, both 7200 rpm (one entirely for fraps). I also have a 1TB external which can be used to house finished videos to free up the second HDD's.

    I was just concerned that this wouldn't run Fraps smoothly on full-screen, would it run ok?

    also, my budget is around 700 pound which is about 1100$ if I am right.
    Be sure to get the right i5 quad core i5-2500(K) and not some last gen crap.

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