Is 4.1 enough until 4.2?

[VernichterEX]

Does anyone feel like Blizzard is really dragging their feet on this patch, and on WoW in general?

I'll admit that I haven't done much PvE this expansion (I barely even bother running my heroics anymore), besides Baradin Hold every week. *The content seems stale already at 85. * I'm finding leveling lowbies to be a much more engaging and fun experience. *I truly think that 1-60 was their best work yet, and the high point of the expansion.

PvP is something I've been playing more this go-around, despite the imbalance and general unfairness of some classes. *Oh, and the "some classes are just better in battleground" excuse is fucking bullshit. *Blizzard's design team should get off their asses and just make sure that each class is balanced and performs well in all aspects. * Maybe some of them need to try actually playing an 85 Boomchicken or Hunter extensively instead of just giving us excuses.

I just hope this upcoming patch isn't going to go stale as quickly as launch did. * Maybe it's time for me to move on to something else... Or maybe I'm right and Cataclysm failed to match the level of hype that promoted it.

[unholytestament]

Does anyone feel like Blizzard is really dragging their feet on this patch, and on WoW in general?

No.

Because they have about 2 months until the patch can actually be considered late compared to the release of content patches in Wrath.

*Blizzard's design team should get off their asses and just make sure that each class is balanced and performs well in all aspects. *

Because it's that easy, right? All they have to do is get motivated and it will happen?

[Durendal]

Okay, here is what people don't understand, 4.2 is coming out the same time 3.1 came out in wotlk compared to when the expansions were released...4.1 is extra content, stop complaining, enjoy it.

[MFDangerDOOM]

No it's not, this patch has no significance to me as a raider so I'm gonna cancel my account until blizzard stops messing around with 5 mans and gives us firelands.

[Deleted]

yeah it sucks to get extra content doesnt it?

Blizz is doing a good job as always, if not better.. stop complaining..

[Asmodejjj]

No it's not, this patch has no significance to me as a raider so I'm gonna cancel my account until blizzard stops messing around with 5 mans and gives us firelands.

I hope you're trolling.

I also don't understand why everyone keeps making these "sky is falling" threads. 4.2 will come in time, with 4.1 and other things to keep us entertained until then. Focus on clearing current content instead of whining.

[Purpleicious]

I'll admit that I haven't done much PvE this expansion (I barely even bother running my heroics anymore), besides Baradin Hold every week. *The content seems stale already at 85. *

Unless you're 13/13 heroic, the content isn't stale yet.

Seeing as most guilds aren't even 12/12 normal, it would be stupid for Blizz to release Firelands this early.

[Deleted]

Yes.
Unless you were already bored with the game, in which case, it changes nothing, and I doubt 4.2 would have much either.

[Deleted]

4.1 was just supposed to be part of Cata at the very release IMO. If it came back then, less people would complain about lack of content at the release, less people would complain about this 4.1 having lack of content.

[skylla05]

No it's not, this patch has no significance to me as a raider so I'm gonna cancel my account until blizzard stops messing around with 5 mans and gives us firelands.

The vast majority of the raiding population isn't even close to finished the current tier, which is likely a big reason why they're not rushing the release of Firelands.

Something tells me you're probably not one of the top 100 guilds currently farming 13 heroic bosses to warrant such an opinion. I mean, even if you were, there's still A TON of people that need (and deserve) more time.

[MFDangerDOOM]

I hope you're trolling.

I also don't understand why everyone keeps making these "sky is falling" threads. 4.2 will come in time, with 4.1 and other things to keep us entertained until then. Focus on clearing current content instead of whining.

Why do you assume I'm trolling? I'm completely serious. Also lol at your "Focus on clearing current content instead of whining," it's real cool when current content is going to be 2 5 mans, that I have already destroyed, will take maybe an hour and a half.

Also whatever to blizzard with this "Lore haz moar trolls back!!"... who really gives a damn about anything happening in ZG and ZA?!

[wxcopy]

The talented guys were pulled off WoW and it was given to the "B" team. The devs are playing the Titan alpha, don't give a crap about WoW, and it shows.

[Culexus]

Also whatever to blizzard with this "Lore haz moar trolls back!!"... who really gives a damn about anything happening in ZG and ZA?!

Anyone who knows that if the trolls can do their thing undisturbed they may rise to a threat that is much bigger than when we are kicking their asses right now. With deathwing in the neck and other threads around azeroth we better make sure not to fight on two front lines we cant handle.

The talented guys were pulled off WoW and it was given to the "B" team. The devs are playing the Titan alpha, don't give a crap about WoW, and it shows.

*sigh* not this shit again. stop making assumptions and acting like they are facts.

[Shamanberry]

4.1 was just supposed to be part of Cata at the very release IMO. If it came back then, less people would complain about lack of content at the release, less people would complain about this 4.1 having lack of content.

It's generally bad to release 2 tiers of anything at the same time. All it does is trivialize the lower tier and make people skip through it as quickly as possible to reach the second -- but that doesn't mean it takes them any less time to develop something, so they linger at that second tier for so long they get bored before the third comes out.

That applies to heroics as much as raids.

The far better way to handle content release is to stagger it. Release content, hold the next tier until the "mainstream" is clearing the previous tier out and possibly looking forward to the next tier, then release the next. Exactly what consitutes the "mainstream" is the objective variable there - you can't say "ok, somebody's cleared 13/13 heroic, quick release the next tier!", nor can you wait for 50%+ of all guilds to get to 13/13 heroic. I mean, if you're Paragon at this point, you should expect to have some dead time between tiers, and if you're server rank #16 guild that's still working on normal modes at this point, you should expect to not finish up heroics. But if you're a top 1000 or so guild, you're likely still at most 8-10 heroics (depending on if you're talking 10 or 25), so release right now would suck.

Anyway, point is, it's too early for Firelands right now. 4.0 would have for sure been too early. 4.0 would have been too early for tier2 heroics. 4.1 with new heroics and 4.2 with new raids is probably about right.

[MFDangerDOOM]

Anyone who knows that if the trolls can do their thing undisturbed they may rise to a threat that is much bigger than when we are kicking their asses right now. With deathwing in the neck and other threads around azeroth we better make sure not to fight on two front lines we cant handle.

Even if this is true, I can't help but feel and view it as blizzard being lazy and once again doing a nice and pretty recycle job.

[Culexus]

Even if this is true, I can't help but feel and view it as blizzard being lazy and once again doing a nice and pretty recycle job.

That feeling could come up. But i am looking forward to the new za and zg. Not saying everyone should. But blizzard cant please everyone anyway. *shrug*

[QQmoore]

No it's not, this patch has no significance to me as a raider so I'm gonna cancel my account until blizzard stops messing around with 5 mans and gives us firelands.

look at it as they are giving you more time to round out your hardmodes and complete them to prevent you from going back in firelands gear and facerolling achievements out of out-dated content.

[zox]

It isn't really that firelands got pushed back to 4.2 instead of 4.1, rather that we get a round of balance upgrades and 2 new 5 mans before we get to dwell into firelands. And according to Blizz, firelands will be amazing too, with tons of new quests and whatnot. Not to mention the raid. I wonder if it's "only" going to be 7 bosses or they have something more in store for us... It is also possible of course that they will release a 2nd 2nd tier raid in 4.3 to adhere to the new premise of smaller upgrades more frequent.

[QQmoore]

The talented guys were pulled off WoW and it was given to the "B" team. The devs are playing the Titan alpha, don't give a crap about WoW, and it shows.

...Cata has had some of the best quest storylines and music of any expansion to date. Try again.

---------- Post added 2011-04-04 at 08:25 PM ----------

unless you have sinestra on farm for your alt, shut up and get working on your raid progress.

[Kiteh]

look at it as they are giving you more time to round out your hardmodes and complete them to prevent you from going back in firelands gear and facerolling achievements out of out-dated content.

There was a blue post regarding the matter, stating they did not want to make the same mistake as they did with Ulduar, by releasing ToC, which basically made Ulduar redundant content.