Im sorry i wont be adding anything useful since im also learning with this thread...but i would like to ask... my resto drood its supposedly geared enough for heorics... and im at 13% haste (which no i know its a bit too much) but while i can respond to dmg fast enough i burn my mana like an alcoholic through bottles of Jackos... how much spirit should i have to be really cormftable at heroics and further on... Thank u for any advice and sorry again i use yor thread Bendover for asking some info for me...