1. #1

    Need some help Chimaeron 25m HM

    We havin major issues keeping the tanks up on feud+double atack , i just cant see if its a heal or tank problem, if you could help me , and a litle dps check would be awsome , we already have tons of wipes there , and i think we had atleast 2/3 tank deaths every single try beacause we cant hold double atack, and when we got to phase 2 we could not kill it, lack of dps omo ..

    phase 2 wipes - it wont letme post links but check vendetta logs on warsong-US

    if u have some tips about double atack + feud plz we need this im just so sad entering chima's room everytime , we passin thru a guild reformulation so some stuff(dps/heals/tanks) can be alitle weird.

  2. #2
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    for fueds have a hand of sac/ gaurdian spirit rotation set up, IF you use hand of sac you must bubble so the pally doing it doesnt die

    have 2 beacons on person eating beak, then 2 pallys on the tank taking double attacks, they need to be full HP for double attack, maybe use CD's tank cd's ect

    when hugging for fued use hosac/gs on tank so all healers have less worrys hugging up then leave 2 pallys to spam tanks, use a hymn/tranq to help with raid healing should be fine with that

    for p3 a disc priest would help lots, with a few innervates reserved for P3, then just switch to inner will and spam shields on everyone, but you should only go into P3 with raid close to 100% all hug up, use pw:barrier/divine gaurdian combo's to reduce the dot, mirror images are the best tank ever for P3 save the CD's of all mage images for then, we usually find after tanks are dead and some of melee they tank it for 20 secs ish

  3. #3
    we always using 2 paladin healers on tanks with hand of sacrifices and tanks using their cds 1 by 1 at double attacks and a disc priest on tank group. at feud we generally using 2 resto druid / 1 holy priest / 1 resto shaman and a disc priest . disc priest just healing the tanks at feud all other healers keeping their party alive and spamming their aoe heals. dont waste all tranqualities at first feud. make a rotation for them and never worry about going oom . let your boomking use their innervates on paladin healers and disc priest. before phase3 pops you have to make every1 full hp and your disc priest must have use shields on chimaeron's targets for letting them kite a little more then usual. last week every1 was alive till phase3 and we only lost 2 ppl at phase3 with shields and some good kiting.
    PS. use a raid dmg reducing spell on every feud. barrier from disc priests and divine guardian from paladins.
    Last edited by Vassili; 2011-04-18 at 03:35 PM.

  4. #4
    this is how we do it for 10man

    using ret pally tank / prot pally / blood dk

    ret pally tanks only during non feud phases
    DK doing first set of double attacks
    *1st feud* - prot pally LoH himself and taunts - pops cd > DK does double attacks - pops cd (double attack tank runs to raid to group)
    DK doing 2nd set of double attacks for non feud
    *2nd feud* - DK taunts - receives LoH from pally heals and pops cd > prot pally does double attacks - pops cd
    prot pally doing double attacks for non feud
    "3rd feud" - prot pally taunts + receives guardian spirit and any cds he has > Dk does double attacks - pops cd or gets a sac from either pally if needed
    dk does double attacks for non feud

    pretty much this and any fueds afterwards you just keep rotating the tanks every other with cooldowns. sometimes you get bad rng and get feuds right after another and that really messes you up. just gota roll with it. if not then run back try it again. you can have the boss on farm and still wipe multiple times everytime you go in there

    also when you get close to p2, you need to try and aim for a push into phase 2 during a feud so people can get topped off
    also remember, the tank doing double attacks DURING feud..only needs the cooldown for the first set of double attacks, the 2nd set during feud doesnt actually hit the tank until feud ends and the tron is back up
    Last edited by Harpocrates; 2011-04-18 at 03:44 PM.

  5. #5
    tyall , if thats not asking too much i wish u could analize our raid dps , are we lackin or can we probably kill with this dps?

  6. #6
    From someone who has done this on 10 and 25 it's incredibly easier on 25. Phase 2 is easy if you have a couple disc priest spam bubble and you get everyone topped up before the transition. You need to make sure whoever tanks the feud has no stacks of break at all and some type of cooldown (or healer cooldown) to take the double attack. Use LoH or GS to top the tank up as soon as feud starts and then assign 2 healers to spam the crap out of them. Pop Wall for the double attack.

    Phase 2 is a joke on 25 man. Wait for a massacre ~24% hp. Stack up. Pop all your tranqs + hymns + healthstones etc etc and push the boss when the raid is 100%. Then just lust, pot, spam bubble the raid, and tunnel.

  7. #7
    Basically what Harpocrates stated. You should be using LOH to top the tank off fast on every fued along with becons it should do the job. During the double attack if you have an additional CD (Pain Suppresion, Sac, etc.) it would also be very helpful.

  8. #8
    If you are rotating tanks for each feud they should pretty much always have their biggest cooldowns for each one. We have each tank receive a LOH right as feud starts. At this point if healing is quick you will be fine until right before Double Attack. If healing is just a lil slow then you can pop a soft cooldown. The key is to make sure you pop your hard cooldown right before double attack and you should have no problems. You can then layer cd's for the rest of the feud and healers should have few problems. Also if you're tanks are using 4pc then the duration of their biggest CD should cover the second half of feud fully which is why I say wait to pop it until right before Double Attack. The first 5-10s aren't that big a deal as long as you get the tank healed quickly.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by hempaa View Post
    tyall , if thats not asking too much i wish u could analize our raid dps , are we lackin or can we probably kill with this dps?
    Your raid DPS is not the issue, over 280k that you were doing on Wednesday is plenty.

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