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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcstunner View Post
    4 days till dragonborn... so. much. want. @_@

    anyway... so i been nerdin' on elder scrolls online, and something lore-wise caught my attention. in skyrim's time period, isn't old aldmeris still a point of debate among scholars? the mmo website states it as a fact "The High Elves, or Altmer, arrived in Tamriel thousands of years ago from Old Aldmeris." i'm guessing this is either a lorelol, or either it was lost to the history books over the time to present day maybe? not sure, figured i'd ask here since i'm asking about current time, not mmo time period.
    Ah right I totally forgot that Dragonborn gets released for the other platforms. I hope you guys have as much fun with it as I had when it was released for the xbox.

    Seriously it is an amazing DLC with at least 35 hours worth of stuff to do. Enjoy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    Ah right I totally forgot that Dragonborn gets released for the other platforms. I hope you guys have as much fun with it as I had when it was released for the xbox.

    Seriously it is an amazing DLC with at least 35 hours worth of stuff to do. Enjoy it
    Question for you then. If I haven't finished the majority of the original game and haven't started Dawnguard at all, should I hold off on Dragonborn? Ideally I don't want to start a new char just to see it.

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    https://twitter.com/BGS_Devs/status/297361461355892736

    Soooo... I thought the earlier announcement meant that Dragonborn was releasing on both PC and PS3 on the 5th...

    Sucks for folks in Europe though. Here's hoping they do actually get it this month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    Question for you then. If I haven't finished the majority of the original game and haven't started Dawnguard at all, should I hold off on Dragonborn? Ideally I don't want to start a new char just to see it.
    I don't see a point why you should wait till you have completed the game. The only quest you need to have finshed before beeing able to start the Dragonborn quests is The horn of Jurgen Windcaller. After that you can start the main quest for the Addon.

    I would totally do it even without having Dawnguard or other stuff completed. Solstheim and Skyrim are not linked questwise so it does not matter if you have done everything in Skyrim as Solstheim basically stands on it's own quetwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    I know this has been asked before but does anyone know any good mage armor mods? I'm currently using tribunal and it's ok but I'm looking for something that looks less high end and more like something suited for running around in the wild. Has to be HD and very good quality as well as lore friendly though (no skimpy, slutty armors) and preferably light armor although cloth is also ok, I guess.
    If you're more of an evil character I like: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/5875
    Otherwise, I usually use:

    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/1047
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9645
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...32&searchtext=
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6684 - Look for the dwarven mage armor in that pack

    Sadly that's all I've been able to find in my own searches. Mage armor doesn't seem as popular, and what little there is is stuffed full of skanky stuff that I don't much care for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    I don't see a point why you should wait till you have completed the game..
    I have no idea, hence I ask. I had the same thing with Dawnguard too. Held off on buying it, but a friend said it's just like any other questlines in the game, do it whenever you feel like it. So I bought Dawnguard when it was half off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikoyamamato View Post
    If you're more of an evil character I like: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/5875
    Otherwise, I usually use:

    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/1047
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9645
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...32&searchtext=
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6684 - Look for the dwarven mage armor in that pack

    Sadly that's all I've been able to find in my own searches. Mage armor doesn't seem as popular, and what little there is is stuffed full of skanky stuff that I don't much care for.
    Thanks, sadly it's true. Finding a good armor that's not skanky and slutty and also has good quality, is HD and is not using vanilla models and textures is like trying to find a needle in a haystack:P So far I've only found 4, 2 of them them don't look very magey though and are more fit for battlemages (too bulky). And Tribunal, even though I love the mod, I think is best saved until later. I don't really see it being very practical for drudging through the woods and dirty caves in that

    Got this for now http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/4708. I've yet to craft it and it doesn't have a male version which kinda sucks cause I can't give it to followers.

    Does anyone know why is immersive armors so popular? It looks like just different pieces of Vanilla armor patched together with almost no originality.. like thieves guild armor pouch belt on leather armor and with the iron armor skirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post

    Does anyone know why is immersive armors so popular? It looks like just different pieces of Vanilla armor patched together with almost no originality.. like thieves guild armor pouch belt on leather armor and with the iron armor skirt.
    I used to have that. It's nice for variety. Yeah, sure, it's leather armor with iron armor skirt, but it also means it's ... LORE-FRIENDLY! (gosh, I'm not sure how I feel about that word). But mostly variety. Some of the more original sets are self-craftable only (like the paladin set and the not-so-original Falkreath armor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    I used to have that. It's nice for variety. Yeah, sure, it's leather armor with iron armor skirt, but it also means it's ... LORE-FRIENDLY! (gosh, I'm not sure how I feel about that word). But mostly variety. Some of the more original sets are self-craftable only (like the paladin set and the not-so-original Falkreath armor).
    Mm I get that sentiment, and while I realize that it probably took a lot of work (as I've tried armor modding as well), it comes off to me as a bit lazy to re-arrange vanilla armors. I kinda agree with Lizbeth on that, it seems uninspired. Not that I don't like some of the armors, but yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikoyamamato View Post
    Mm I get that sentiment, and while I realize that it probably took a lot of work (as I've tried armor modding as well), it comes off to me as a bit lazy to re-arrange vanilla armors. I kinda agree with Lizbeth on that, it seems uninspired. Not that I don't like some of the armors, but yeah.
    True. But it's still variety. I mean, I never thought of it as 'original models', it's a compilation. I just stopped using it because I was desperately trying to trim down my mods, and this one I felt didn't add to my immersion as much (you rarely see it on NPCs, most of the armors are for yourself to craft).

    Now I'm looking for a mod that will make exploring and clearing dungeons worthwhile. Like a loot system that doesn't scale with you, so that there is always as excitement of finding something unexpected in a dungeon. So far those I found on google are either hidden or abandoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    Now I'm looking for a mod that will make exploring and clearing dungeons worthwhile. Like a loot system that doesn't scale with you, so that there is always as excitement of finding something unexpected in a dungeon. So far those I found on google are either hidden or abandoned.
    I mod too much for my own good. Here's what I recommend for that:
    Achieve That - Not so much a loot mod or anything, but it rewards you for doing almost anything.
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11018 - Makes it more exciting to open chests etc in a dungeon! Although arguably if you get too lucky it can make you too strong.
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/29824 - Pretty cool, it adds structures and stuff to otherwise empty areas, making it feel more rewarding to explore the open world.
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12766 - Literally rewards exploration!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    I used to have that. It's nice for variety. Yeah, sure, it's leather armor with iron armor skirt, but it also means it's ... LORE-FRIENDLY! (gosh, I'm not sure how I feel about that word). But mostly variety. Some of the more original sets are self-craftable only (like the paladin set and the not-so-original Falkreath armor).
    Yea.. I'm not sure sure how I feel about it though. Original armors are lore friendly too as long as they don't have modern materials or arent too impractical. I probably wouldn't buy latex superhero costume but for example something like black sacrament armor seems lore friendly enough. I mean you can be a blacksmith or a tailor.. you got access to leather and metals and fantasy materials, why couldn't you make something original from them?.. use a different pattern, make different size pouches and color them differently. It's not like there is some sort of fashion police in Skyrim that executes everyone who dares to use a different pattern on their iron shield on the spot..

    I found an amazing mod for anyone who is like me and don't like severed heads on their walls http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/24439. I think it's pretty lore friendly too, Oblivion had paintings and painters so why not Skyrim?
    Last edited by mmocc089ef6a74; 2013-02-01 at 07:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    Yea.. I'm not sure sure how I feel about it though. Original armors are lore friendly too as long as they don't have modern materials or arent too impractical. I probably wouldn't buy latex superhero costume but for example something like black sacrament armor seems lore friendly enough. I mean you can be a blacksmith or a tailor.. you got access to leather and metals and fantasy materials, why couldn't you make something original from them?.. use a different pattern, make different size pouches and color them differently. It's not like there is some sort of fashion police in Skyrim that executes everyone who dares to use a different pattern on their iron shield on the spot..
    Being lore friendly doesn't mean it also fits with game's aesthetic.

    A lot of the slut armors could be considered lore friendly upon close examination. Stupid, but lore friendly.

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    Being lore friendly doesn't mean it also fits with game's aesthetic.

    A lot of the slut armors could be considered lore friendly upon close examination. Stupid, but lore friendly.
    Yea, that's true, I guess I'm just not too comfortable with mods that use work done by others and repurpose it.

    For example this mod http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/24909 is a real work of art. The author made all the textures himself (or herself?) but on the other hand, if you just patch something together from things made by others, it feels fake. Besides some of the things arent meant to be put together so after a while the seams and inconsistencies start to really bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    Yea, that's true, I guess I'm just not too comfortable with mods that use work done by others and repurpose it.

    For example this mod http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/24909 is a real work of art. The author made all the textures himself (or herself?) but on the other hand, if you just patch something together from things made by others, it feels fake. Besides some of the things arent meant to be put together so after a while the seams and inconsistencies start to really bother me.
    Wow, that looks really great, and yet would look totally out of place in my game. lol. Super sharp, detailed weapon/armor texture on vanilla bodies and environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Being lore friendly doesn't mean it also fits with game's aesthetic.
    I think this is the problem I have with that term. It feels like a fallback, catch-all, general purpose phrase that lost its meaning from extensive reuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    I think this is the problem I have with that term. It feels like a fallback, catch-all, general purpose phrase that lost its meaning from extensive reuse.
    What? Aesthetic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    What? Aesthetic?
    No no, I meant "lore-friendly".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    Wow, that looks really great, and yet would look totally out of place in my game. lol. Super sharp, detailed weapon/armor texture on vanilla bodies and environment.
    It worked fine with the official HD textures, only the mod is unfinished and glass, scaled, ebony and better armors are still vanilla. It's just textures too and don't need to be enabled in the launcher. I had the exact opposite problem.. everything looked really nice and HD except vanilla clothes, armor and weapons:P

    But yea, generally I have a problem with mods that use vanilla textures and/or meshes unless it's not noticeable. It gives that amateur, low quality feeling and I can immediately tell it doesn't fit. Although, even the official dwemer crossbow gives me that feeling:P I guess because they reused the scrap metal texture on the arms.

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    So i'm about to reach 900 hours played. HELP! I reckon thats not as much as some people though. Whats your played time?

    Also, do you reckn that skyrim will follow the pattern of Morrowind and Oblivion when it comes to content patches (Dawnguard and Dragonborn for example)? i've not seen anything saying otherwise.
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    Nothing wrong with it but: How can you still play Skyrim? Don't you get bored from it? :P

    2 characters was enough for me.... I even read a lot of lore at the time.

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