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    Why is my fellow countryperson trying to hump Mr. Grump Dotaman in this thread wtf

    Also take a break if you're losing a lot, you need it. And Madred's on Vi is kinda wasted since she already clears well enough without auto-attacking, would rather increase her ability damage to mobs and get her some sustain. An early Brutalizer takes care of your damage.

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    Played Darius in the jungle today and must I say Elder Lizard item is lovely on him.
    Hey everyone

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    Because Mr. Grump Dotama-- I mean Zefie-sama is my master after all. Well, till he finds something to clip my collar. We have a history together, in short terms.
    * Drools..

    @On topic: I'll admit that Vi is strong with her W passive, but I still find the extra ward, armor and life steal more tempting than mere 9 hp5 and 7 mp5(?, around those stats), though that's my opinion.
    Haven't played her lately, so I can't tell by performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    Why is my fellow countryperson trying to hump Mr. Grump Dotaman in this thread wtf
    I don't know. ;_;



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    Still cravin' your body. I also see you've changed your name, once again, but I will still remember you for whom you really are!
    Zefie-sama~~~
    @Off topic: Still cravin' it~ Love is in the aaaaaaaaair♥~
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    But I thought you loved this word?
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    Of course he does. It's his favourite word ever, never stop saying it to him
    STOP IT. ;_;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalënë View Post
    Because Mr. Grump Dotama-- I mean Zefie-sama is my master after all. Well, till he finds something to clip my collar. We have a history together, in short terms.
    * Drools..

    @On topic: I'll admit that Vi is strong with her W passive, but I still find the extra ward, armor and life steal more tempting than mere 9 hp5 and 7 mp5(?, around those stats), though that's my opinion.
    Haven't played her lately, so I can't tell by performance.
    Its the Lizard Elder upgrade that is very strong on Vi/Heca/Skarner and probably others.
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    It's pretty disheartning to have a high win rate (lost 3 out of the last 12 games and wasn't on a losing streak before that either) and barely moving on the boards. Can't even seem to get promoted out of my division winning almost every game?

    ugh. Oh I dropped about 20 places for losing 2 games in a row though, that just seems like an insane punishment to reward ratio o.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okuu View Post
    Whatwhatwhatwhatwhat
    All you need is love~

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    Its the Lizard Elder upgrade that is very strong on Vi/Heca/Skarner and probably others.
    True true, they're going to buff it as well, which makes it even more attracting to the current champions choosing it over Wriggle. Can't find the source, but it had a special passive which reduced the cd of Smite by ~20%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelle View Post
    It's pretty disheartning to have a high win rate (lost 3 out of the last 12 games and wasn't on a losing streak before that either) and barely moving on the boards. Can't even seem to get promoted out of my division winning almost every game?

    ugh. Oh I dropped about 20 places for losing 2 games in a row though, that just seems like an insane punishment to reward ratio o.o
    Odd, because my brother seemed to only have lost 3/4 of League Points of his usual wins when he loses, but then again this new system isn't failproof. I barely do ranked because of this, but I still find it odd that you lose more than what you gain when you win.

    @Zefie-sama: Seems like we won't have any time left to talk or cuddle, even though I'd like to do it, because my beloved James Bond (2nd in rank, you are my priority) and his Casino-sphree is awaiting my arrival. See you and I hope you have some liquid dreams about me, because I know I will.
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    We've got a yandere growing, woo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    Of course he does. It's his favourite word ever, never stop saying it to him
    Leave it to me <(^_^)7
    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    Why is my fellow countryperson trying to hump Mr. Grump Dotaman in this thread wtf
    It's funny cause the character in his avatar/signature is actually a man.
    Also take a break if you're losing a lot, you need it. And Madred's on Vi is kinda wasted since she already clears well enough without auto-attacking, would rather increase her ability damage to mobs and get her some sustain. An early Brutalizer takes care of your damage.
    Yeah that's why I said he should get spirit stone, Elder Lizard on Vi is rapeage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    Played Darius in the jungle today and must I say Elder Lizard item is lovely on him.
    Fix your sig, the url is broken :/
    Quote Originally Posted by Okuu View Post
    STOP IT. ;_;
    Gomen ne, Zefie-niisan :/
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    We've got a yandere growing, woo!
    Hmm, Yandere? I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to hurt Zefie.
    Last edited by mmoca4d455c28a; 2013-02-16 at 10:25 PM. Reason: added another quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalënë View Post
    True true, they're going to buff it as well, which makes it even more attracting to the current champions choosing it over Wriggle. Can't find the source, but it had a special passive which reduced the cd of Smite by ~20%.[COLOR="red"]
    They're nerfing the truedamage, which was the main reason people picked that item over the tank one/not upgrading the Machete. Doubt a Smite CD reduction is gonna make up for that damage loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alteam View Post
    I like Wrigg for soloing dragon and fast baron kills. That is why i use it.
    Spirit items are far more consistent for DPS if you want to solo Dragon. For every "fast" Dragon kill with lots of Wriggle's procs, you get three "slow" Dragon kills because Wriggle's doesn't proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebert View Post
    Spirit items are far more consistent for DPS if you want to solo Dragon. For every "fast" Dragon kill with lots of Wriggle's procs, you get three "slow" Dragon kills because Wriggle's doesn't proc.
    It all depends on which champion you're playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    Oh my, your mood sure is getting.. toxic
    We should go easy on him, he just got back from banland!
    High five tho-

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    Toxic (Japanese: どくどく Excessive Poison) is a non-damaging Poison-type move introduced in Generation I that badly poisons the target. It is TM06 in every generation so far.

    And yanderes don't hurt their targets of affection, they violently kill everything else. :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackroo View Post
    It all depends on which champion you're playing.
    Name a champion that gets more consistent (than 25%) Wriggles procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebert View Post
    Name a champion that gets more consistent (than 25%) Wriggles procs.
    *insert list of people with AS steroids here*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okuu View Post
    *insert list of people with AS steroids here*
    Having an attack speed steroid does not give you a higher percent chance of getting a wriggles proc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monado View Post
    Gomen ne, Zefie-niisan :/
    Urusai, baka.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    Oh my, your mood sure is getting.. toxic
    Muz, I will end you.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Monado View Post
    We should go easy on him, he just got back from banland!
    High five tho-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figoment View Post
    Having an attack speed steroid does not give you a higher percent chance of getting a wriggles proc.
    It doesn't increase the chance but it does increase the number of occurrences. As for increasing consistency, larger numbers tend more towards their averages. On average, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebert View Post
    Name a champion that gets more consistent (than 25%) Wriggles procs.
    Trundle. Shyvana. Those 2 are problaly the ones benefitting the most out of Madreds/Wriggles.

    Lee Sin benefits more from Madred's/Wriggles than Spirit Stone (let's just leave out the mana regen stat and focus on the extra damage on creeps).

    Nocturne, Zed, Xin Zhao, Shen, Diana, Fiora, Kha'Zix (to an extent, you'll benefit more from Spirit Stone by upgrading it to tankystone), Rammus, Blitz and so on; the point is, Madreds/Wriggles is awesome for champions who doesn't have low-cd abilities (like Diana and Rammus etc).

    Madred's is basically a tank item with a great bonus for junglers; not exclusive for AD-characters only. Maokai would do good with it aswell for example.
    Last edited by mmocfaf6580671; 2013-02-16 at 11:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Toxic (Japanese: どくどく Excessive Poison) is a non-damaging Poison-type move introduced in Generation I that badly poisons the target. It is TM06 in every generation so far.
    Lol'd at the Pokémon reference, good one sir.
    And yanderes don't hurt their targets of affection, they violently kill everything else. :x
    I know, I kinda just meant like hurt anyone but I wasn't sure about the whole Yandere stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Okuu View Post
    Urusai, baka.
    ...
    Hidoi na... onii-san :/

    Muz, I will end you.
    Don't do it! He has a promising life ahead of him!

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