The League of Legends thread

[Lyriok]

If you're thinking about an AP mid jungler, I have heard of people having some success with jungle Karthus.

Yea seen that work too.

Kuthe is looking for un-traditional junglers and I really think Cass could pull it off tho mana dependant. Great aoe and single target damage plus a movement speed buff.
Her ganks would be fairly strong due to the damage and alot stronger with level 6.

Im personally gonna pick her up just to try it out, as for Karthus I own him but just don't enjoy his play style.

[Thallidomaniac]

So it looks like the patch will be rolled out here tonight for the US. Xin Zhao will BE A MAN once again.

On a side note, with the upcoming XZ changes, are attack speed reds the way to go on him now?

[NotValidAnymore]

What I'm confused about, is that I'm on EU West now, but my friends at NE have the patch coming out at 8 AM, while there hasn't even been a mention of the new patch on West.

I just recently transferred there, so I don't know much. Is the maintenance just really late there?

[Duronos]

I tried jungle Nunu after the changes. I feel like an asshole, but stealing things have never been so fun!

I certainly am agreeing as a fellow asshole.

[Deleted]

Nunu jungler is a lot of fun, but I feel pretty useless lategame. I usually have to build tank, so damage is 0, you still don't feel tanky (or their Corki was just too fed for me), and you need to be in their face to slow their carry. Bloodboiling carry is always nice, but still no where near as usefull as when I'd be something like Amumu.

[Duilliath]

What I thought was a Kass nerf turns out to be a Kass buff since they got rid of the mana nerf and upped the AP ratio on his ult. Nocturne nerf is sad. I don't know why since his ult isn't even global anymore. Graves nerf has been a long time coming. I guess they finally decided how to hit his smokescreen.

It's specifically aimed at Dominion, where he was played as a Manatank (similar to Ryze). With the passive regen on Dominion, he was able to simply spam Ulti after Ulti.

[Deleted]

I'm glad that someone tried jungle Kass Thanks for comment Kuthe.
Once I've seen ad Janna jungle... she has fed us very well. If you wanna try even more strange junglers .. maybe Malza? with new QoL buffs... jumping dot + 2 aoe , one based on % health + ulti for ganks and of course passive voidling as tanks...

Bah... I'm sad I can't buy Zyra yet

[khalltusk]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAH that picture

[Deleted]

Ok... I'm after first game with new Eve (begginer bots , SR). Sadly , she doesn't seem viable.

Passive - I believe that detect range in-game is lower than in spotlight , that's good but everything cancell it ... taking random dmg from aoe , using recall (Twitch in spotlight could recall while stealthed , haven't played him live yet) , using dark frenzy ... it feels lame. Also you won't be stealthed for most of game. It takes 8(?) sec to reload and
a) on lane - you last hit minions
b) in jungle - well , you kill all the time and moving between camps doesn't take that long to get full potential of mana regen from it (1% of total mana per 1sec)
2/5 to be honest. I think Riot failed with design sooo much.

Q - Great buff ... at early it doesn't feel that much mana consuming + , aoe + , additional ad scalling + , cd increase - reasonable 5/5 nice tool (you shouldn't farm minions with it unless you're jungler [mana issues at later ranks])

W - I don't feel like I have it ... I usually poke with q so attack speed is lame (I'm not close to targets or rather they aren't close to me) , active is useful cause it doesn't req any mana to use , high cd but refresh on kill/assist 3/5

E - Omg , this is so retarded. THAT delay on using it? Really? When Eve finishes her first strike enemy champion is far away from you already. And she has no time to strike 2nd time (next delay...) so it's wasted time (Eve stops for some time to deal first slash and then for some time again to do 2nd one... if champion moves , well , she's f**). Even ap+ad scalling doesn't save it 0/5
Suggested solutions by me :
a)Increase ap and ad ratio by 0.15 (I believe that Riot wanted to increase damage from ratios changing this skill into 2shot from 1shot [base damage reduced by half , ratios the same I believe]) and make it 1strike again without any delay
b)Add snare to you and target for the duration (but it would be controversial...)

R - Quite nice ulti ... dmg , shield , radius. The only minus is cd but at later ranks it's lower. 4/5 becuase of cd at 1st rank

Now... stats haven't been updated , right? As an assasin her 315 movement speed is quite low but with dark frenzy , boots and trinity force it's ok. However health... Ouch. I can't imagine her in jungle with no sustain and being such paper. Even gunblade isn't enough. And using ult to have any chance to survive isn't great idea from Riot.

End of ends - I can't see her back to games yet. Maybe with some more changes... QoL buffs on E are NEEDED. 5/10 overall?

Also - please her moving style , voice and attack animation back xD

Edit : \/ I'll try!

EDIT2: I hope it looks better now ^^

[Rampant Rabbit]

Ok... I'm after first game with new Eve (begginer bots , SR). Sadly , she doesn't seem viable.
Passive - I believe that detect range in-game is lower than in spotlight , that's good but everything cancell it ... taking random dmg from aoe , using recall (Twitch in spotlight could recall while stealthed , haven't played him live yet) , using dark frenzy ... it feels lame 2/5 to be honest
Q - Great buff ... at early it doesn't feel that much mana consuming + , aoe + , additional ad scalling + , cd increase - reasonable 5/5 nice tool (you shouldn't farm minions with it unless you're jungler [mana issues at later ranks])
W - I don't feel like I have it ... I usually poke with q so attack speed is lame (I'm not close to targets or rather they aren't close to me) , active is useful cause it doesn't req any mana to use , high cd but refresh on kill/assist 3/5
E - Omg , this is so retarded. THAT delay on using it? Really? When Eve finishes her first strike enemy champion is far away from you already. And she has no time to strike 2nd time (next delay...) so it's wasted time. Even ap+ad scalling doesn't save it 0/5
R - Quite nice ulti ... dmg , shield , radius. The only minus is cd but at later ranks it's lower. 4/5 becuase of cd at 1st rank
Now... stats haven't been updated , right? As an assasin her 315 is quite low but with dark frenzy , boots and trinity force it's ok. However health... Ouch. I can't imagine her in jungle with no sustain and being such paper. Even gunblade isn't enough. And using ult to have any chance to survive isn't great idea from Riot.
End of ends - I can't see her back to games yet. Maybe with some more changes... QoL buffs on E are NEEDED. 5/10 overall?
Also - please her moving style , voice and attack animation back xD

Would you mind re-structuring your post? I'm inclined to read it, but repulsed by the structure..

[Duronos]

Does new Eve need any AP in her runes or masteries?

[Toxigen]

Does new Eve need any AP in her runes or masteries?

I suppose it depends on how you want to play her.

I mean, I see her as a jungle/ganking specialist. I could see running magic pen reds, armor yellows, MR/level blues, and MS quints...but you're missing on some early burst without any AP runes.

[Duronos]

I suppose it depends on how you want to play her.

I mean, I see her as a jungle/ganking specialist. I could see running magic pen reds, armor yellows, MR/level blues, and MS quints...but you're missing on some early burst without any AP runes.

I mean I jungled with her using my Shaco jungle runes which have ArP reds, Attack Speed quints, Magic resist blue, flat armor yellow.

[Deleted]

Welp. Having problems with the new patch. The five minutes I played with Xin Zhao went okay, but he still needs more work.

[Deleted]

Just read the patch-notes.

Urgot

Acid Hunter
Damage adjusted to 50/80/110/140/170 (+1.2 bonus Attack Damage) from 10/40/70/100/130 (+0.85 total Attack Damage)
Lock-on missile cast range reduced to 1200 from 1500
Fixed: Rank 1 range is no longer higher than the other ranks

Wow...they call that adjusted? Why don't they just call it increased? ^^
That's quite a bit!

[Deleted]

Just read the patch-notes.

Urgot

Acid Hunter
Damage adjusted to 50/80/110/140/170 (+1.2 bonus Attack Damage) from 10/40/70/100/130 (+0.85 total Attack Damage)
Lock-on missile cast range reduced to 1200 from 1500
Fixed: Rank 1 range is no longer higher than the other ranks

Wow...they call that adjusted? Why don't they just call it increased? ^^
That's quite a bit!

Read again, Total Damage ratio to Bonus AD, which means that his early game will be weaker but he will have more scaling.
(The damage diffrence on low level will be very low but its still a nerf for early)

[Bombkirby]

Yea seen that work too.

Kuthe is looking for un-traditional junglers and I really think Cass could pull it off tho mana dependant. Great aoe and single target damage plus a movement speed buff.
Her ganks would be fairly strong due to the damage and alot stronger with level 6.

Im personally gonna pick her up just to try it out, as for Karthus I own him but just don't enjoy his play style.

Hmm I don't think it'd work. The movement speed thing only works on champion so she'd jungle really slowly. She can't take the punishment from jungle creeps either as she has no sustain. And she has poor CC for ganking. Miasma might work as CC for ganks, but it has shoddy range and it's slow isn't too strong. The Ultimate has very tiny range and only works well if they're looking at you, so they'd have to be very overextended so you could come up behind them.

The worst part would be the jungling part because of the damage you take, and her lack of a MS steroid on creeps. By all means give it a shot though.

[Deleted]

@ Un-traditonal junglers
*Opens Door*
Akali
*Closes Door*

[Deleted]

@ un-traditonal junglers
*opens door*
akali
*closes door*

and stay out.

[Deleted]

You serious right now? It says they increased all the numbers. they increased the scaling and the base damage on all levels.

Base AD + 10 is still higher than 50 + 0 so its a nerf for early game (if no runes+items)
Which means that "Adjusted" is the right term and not "Increased" which is the usual wording for scaling+base dmg increases.