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Tested AP Rengar 3 times in a row today. Long story short, its only use is to burst down ADCs. Sadly they always had someone with an Oracles, or we were in their base, and its impossible to stealth up to them, or reach them, since he has no useful gapcloser other than his Ult. And even then two bursts of 700ish magic damage isn't enough to one shot them when you add in the Resist they get from heals and Aegis. It was pretty good early on, but after that spamming his AP AoE in the center of their team didn't even shave off 1/4th of the tanks/bruisers/support's health. I ended up selling my full build for a typical AD build.
He had so much downtime once you blow his cool downs that you need to make sure his auto attacks hit hard. I know his Roar heals him, but its not like it scales with AP. And 15% health every like 20 seconds isn't all that useful. You can be bursted down in 5 seconds most of the time. If he had more AP scaling moves like your typical AP fighter (rumble/diana) it'd be more viable. But that one spell aint gonna cut it. If only his Ult instantly gave him full ferocity, so you don't get focused via oracles when you try to use it to escape and regain ferocity after your double combo.
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"I die to fast, I guess I need MOAR DAMAGE". On the other hand, they expected me to initiate as jungle AD Eve, because for some reason I was the tankiest.
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He has an AOE ability with a 1.0 AP ratio. With the ferocity mechanic he can use an Ferocity W, then a normal W immediately. DFG and Lichbane just add more AP burst. Most of the AD Rengars I see are absolute garbage, so that's why AP is better. He can at least do some damage before becoming useless.
Diamondprox from M5 has been running with him in the jungle at around 2.2k ELO, and he has some scary good games. Pretty much all victories as AD. So maybe not many people have just figured AD Rengar out yet.
AP Rengar is terrible, I'm pretty sure this is a phase people will get over. Being able to get Lichbane and DFG for "more burst" isn't a viable argument, anyone can do that.
I've actually seen better Rengar's in the past week. His burst is quite good and if you give him a tanky item or two then he really starts to be a pain to deal with. I haven't played him yet but I have noticed that people started to get better after a week or so at him instead of being so bad like he used to be played.
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It feels like AP Sion, except he falls off like a rock and both were designed to be AD champs, so their kit doesn't mesh well (Ap Sion's ult/AP Ren Q)
It really sucks once people get MR or even health. You cannot do much with AP Rengar. I suggest that you all try him out this week and post your results. It felt gimmicky/UP after I got an evenly matched team to fight against.
I played a game recently with a lane Eve. I was Supportnaut. We went bot and absolutely wrecked things. She spent a lot of time roaming for kills but would always come back and rip the enemy bot lane a new one when I was in trouble. It was more effective than it had any right to be. The enemy support in lane was Taric. Eve had a knack for waiting for the 2 of them to jump me and as soon as Taric's stun was on me Eve popped out and destroyed them. Turns out, Eve's Chase-You-Down-And-Kill-You style of combat pairs really well with all of Naut's CC.
I ended up with 30 assists almost purely just by setting up kills for Eve. I'm sure this wouldn't work against a more competent team but it was pretty hilarious to watch them make the same mistakes time and time again. It was like they were blindly determined to take my Naut down out of principal.
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Is it just me or did tehy overbuff eve a bit lol
mid eve is picked alot recently due to her successful ganking around wards and THAT BURST with DFG >_>(even with MR on a tank!!) if she loses her lane that is
oh and teemo mid too lately lol
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true, eves burst grew pretty hard, but still she has no true defensive skill and she is hardly squishy.
And I din't know, since Teemos spells got corrected...his dmg is pretty hard o0
mushrooms, his attacks with every poison as intended....really hard dmg. Only still the squishiest champ in lol
but once he gets into the game he can carry it....ust had it yesterday
AP Eve is pretty brutal. Did a game earlier, played Zyra against her mid. Stomped her everytime she showed her face mid, but she would just gank sidelanes 24/7. Once she got DFG and a Gunblade, she could 100-0 me quickly enough that I had to make an Hourglass ASAP.
Yup. That's the basic idea. Screw CS. Time spent in lane is time spent not ganking. Even if you are up in midlane, if Eve is stomping bot, top (and jungle!) all your other lanes are miles behind and she rakes in the kills/assists there, you're not going to win.
I still feel it's beatable. She's sacrificing a ton of CS and basically giving you the option to make plays also. It was more of my lanes not dealing with her well than anything. When teamfights role around get an oracles on your initiator/tank. She gets cheeky, she's dead. Otherwise just make sure the squishies are know they are going to be targeted and act accordingly. She's brutal against idiots though.
some goes for tryndamere she is easy to deal with if you know how in a competent team in best case she can blast one target and then dies
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and if she roames and does not farm it ist just gives you mid the ability to either push and kill the tower or gank as well
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at least 3 of these games had ap eve mid, destroyed her every time