Why does high quality PC gaming have to be so expensive!
Why does high quality PC gaming have to be so expensive!
580 tears 480 a new one in DX11 titles though, just get a proper custom PCB 580 and OC that
Hit and miss really, i'd personally go for the 570 purely because of the better fabrication process, GF100 was flawed (Charlie at semiaccurate just loves to point this out!), but nether the less is true.
The GF110 however are fantastic chips (have a GTX580 non reference board in this myself, had a reference 470 prior). But yeah can get around the problem with a better power phase design and aftermarket cooler, however, both the 570 and the 480 reap the benefits from that, so id personally go with a 570, more or less because of the updated fabrication process.
I honestly don't see the point, do you? -> http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/309?vs=305
GTX580 is 10-20% faster than GTX480, even in Metro 2033 at 2560x1600 size, but costs 60% more. I call that fucking stupid and pointless use of money when you can buy a $300 GTX480 and OC it that 10-20% up to match $500 GTX580.
Top of the line graphics cards is always the biggest waste of money in computer building, price/performance ratio stops linear growth and goes exponential. Also the loss of value over time follows the same pattern. GTX480 used to cost that $500 only year ago but have dropped 40% in price, while GTX460 for example lost only 25% of it's 'value'.
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I'd say I see a point, yes. There is a clear difference in DX11 titles and DX11 is getting more popular by day. 580 rapes 480 upside down when it comes to tesselation.
But then again, I guess not everyone makes crapton of money and can afford these choices. But I'd go with 580 any day over 480 if money wasn't a big issue.
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No, you still dont see the point.
That's 30 vs 35 fps on Unigine Heaven benchmark at extreme settings, and nothing in games will push Tesselation further. 15% speed difference in favor of GTX580, which costs 60% more. It's very bad price/performance ratio, and I don't see any raping happening, except the rape of your wallet/credit card when going with 580 over 480 or 570.
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Roughly the same 15% difference also in Metro 2033 on 2560x1600 resolution and only around 10% difference in Call of Pripyat which is getting awfully close to margin of error. Those are probably the best examples of Tesselation and other DX11 tricks used in mainstream games today, so you can't nitpick about synthetic benchmarks either.
Last edited by vesseblah; 2011-07-14 at 10:00 AM.
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My wallet can take it so it's all cool.
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How is that even slightly a trouble if it's built to take it?
No, I won't claim the GF-100 to be a raving success, in fact, GF-110 is all the GF-100 should've been. But people are exaggerating their shortcommings. They are by no means the most optimal cards, but they're solid good graphics cards.
Im a owner of a gtx 480. http://www.evga.com/products/moreinf...015-P3-1482-AR
Its a version that has a backplate for extra cooling. I bought it to from a guy in a forum, it was pretty cheap. I can't remenber the values I have it on but it has some oc on it. I can tell you that even now (summer Time) in never goes over 85º celsius.
That also what case and fans you have.
I know the gtx480 consumes arent great but it can take about any game on the market. Plus theres an article on tom hardware http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-480,2875.html that shows how this card improved.
Atm I think its one of the best deals you can do in therms of bang for buck.
Btw I dont know what kind of PSU you have but to handle that version of 480 (lightning) you need a good one. At least a corsair 650w.
Last edited by psyched; 2011-07-14 at 10:46 AM.
I have a friend with a pny gtx 480, and hes always complaining about the heat, and the crashes from it.
Myself, I have a gtx 570, they run at 28 during the day/monring and 35c at night. (obviously GPU1 will run hotter) The GTX 570 in my eyes is a MUCH better card then the gtx 480. I would go near a 480 unless it was on water to be honest. They are way to hot. How does 90+ c degress sound, and a f**k ton of power draw?
NOT WORTH IT. Sure they were good on performance, but I would rather have something a little slower than sitting in a room thats 90+ c degrees and loud fan speed.
@hinaaja
That temp is in full load with oc. I usually dont have the fans working high because I dont like noise.
I also would like the 50 c of the 580 but it costs more than the double i payed for my 480.
I bought a gtx 480 from a guy for 190 euros 4 months ago (it had 1 month usage), the same version of it but with gtx 580 costs 436 euros.
580 It just too expensive and you get what? 10 frames more? grats on that.
If user wants a more recent just go for a 570 with a custom cooler.