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    g15 keydown and spamming.

    hey,

    i just watched kripparian's guide to dps. in that guide he mentioned, that you can set up your g15 to simulate pressed keys as spammed keys. is this only possible with the macro keys or all keys? if so, where would i find those options.

    is it also possible to setup your g15 keys to activate on keydown instead of key release?

    thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalo View Post
    is it also possible to setup your g15 keys to activate on keydown instead of key release?
    It's actually by default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akts View Post
    It's actually by default.
    Just in case it isn't, there's also an option in the Interface settings in WoW. I think it's under the Combat section.

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    I'm quite sure this isn't allowed and probably trackable, so you might want to consider pushing your buttons yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akts View Post
    It's actually by default.
    seems so, i also had it activated within wow and apparently both keydowns negated out to key up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by niai View Post
    I'm quite sure this isn't allowed and probably trackable, so you might want to consider pushing your buttons yourself.
    Never heard of anyone being banned for that stuff.
    If you are paranoid, you can get a programmed hardware piece, that requires no drivers, no software and is completely untrackable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niai View Post
    I'm quite sure this isn't allowed and probably trackable, so you might want to consider pushing your buttons yourself.
    it isn't. I tried the same thing after watching the same vid, and tons of people asked this question only to get a "it's not allowed, you'll get banned" response each time.

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    That's correct - the official Blizzard stance on keyboards and devices with programmable "macro" keys (G15, etc) is that if you can't do it via the in-game Macro system, doing it with a programmable key macro is against the ToS, and as such can get you banned.

    Just remember the basic idea of Blizzard banning for macros - One Key Press = One Spell on GCD.

    If you push the button once, even if you hold it down, you can only cast one spell that's on the GCD, and only once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taryble View Post
    That's correct - the official Blizzard stance on keyboards and devices with programmable "macro" keys (G15, etc) is that if you can't do it via the in-game Macro system, doing it with a programmable key macro is against the ToS, and as such can get you banned.

    Just remember the basic idea of Blizzard banning for macros - One Key Press = One Spell on GCD.

    If you push the button once, even if you hold it down, you can only cast one spell that's on the GCD, and only once.
    ye, just feels a bit retarded to spam a button till your hand aches to do best possible dps.

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    Spell queueing solves that issue. Queued spell casts are executed as soon as the server finishes the last cast.
    Last edited by mmocba105e19de; 2011-08-01 at 04:36 PM.

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    Any idea if you can accomplish the same thing with a Razer Anansi?

    Fury warrior worried about early onset Arthritis here :<

    Edit: nvm got it to work. Dont see why this should be bannable really. To get the highest possible output you need to spam the key you need next to minimise the time you aren't using a spell, which causes severe pain for some people, especially those that play a very "spammy" spec so to speak.

    Blizzard should really change their stance on that.
    Last edited by KassieDS; 2011-08-01 at 04:34 PM.
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    The blizzard stance is not just covering spamming of the same key, but in automation of more than one key, particularly when you start to involve pauses to take into account the GCD. Where a single button press could do an entire rotation.
    Unfortunatly blizzard cannot realistically dictate that such hardware/software macros are valid under one form but not under another.
    Where does the line lie ?
    It is easier to say no to something and put a fence around it rather than in the middle.
    Last edited by ComputerNerd; 2011-08-02 at 07:32 AM.

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    I once made a ticket to ask if I'm allowed to use G15 macros. The GM said that I was allowed to use any kind of macro, as long as I was actually behind the PC and playing, not being AFK.

    Make sure you double check it to, GM's don't know the truth, and it seems a lot of people've heard otherways.

    Anyway, as Freeston said; spellqueueing has solved this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles View Post
    I once made a ticket to ask if I'm allowed to use G15 macros. The GM said that I was allowed to use any kind of macro, as long as I was actually behind the PC and playing, not being AFK.

    Make sure you double check it to, GM's don't know the truth, and it seems a lot of people've heard otherways.

    Anyway, as Freeston said; spellqueueing has solved this issue.
    In-game GMs don't know much about anything.
    http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1...3276242?page=1

    The above is the outline of a thread about this exact question, and more specifically a blue post stating 1 key press is 1 action.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...6242?page=2#25

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    ild still like to know if its possible to have my g15 to spam buttons 1-5 or just macro buttons.

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    Kalo - the hardware can do it. However, that is against the ToS/EULA, and can get you banned from WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalo View Post
    ild still like to know if its possible to have my g15 to spam buttons 1-5 or just macro buttons.
    Sure, you can have your G15 press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 at the same time. Or, you could make a macro that /cast ability1-5 and spam that instead.

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    what's the difference?
    you can make a macro like:

    /cast spell1
    /in 1
    /cast spell2
    /in 2
    /cast spell3

    Note: you need the Ace library for the /in commands to work.
    ... this macro can cast you 3 spells with 1 press of a button, while also waiting for your GCD.
    why is this different from what the G15 does?
    I'm using a G15 also and been using this functionality for over 2 years and no ban... because there is absolutely no reason to ban you for this, because it can be simulated with in-game macros.
    Stop standing in fire...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafy View Post
    what's the difference?
    you can make a macro like:

    /cast spell1
    /in 1
    /cast spell2
    /in 2
    /cast spell3

    Note: you need the Ace library for the /in commands to work.
    ... this macro can cast you 3 spells with 1 press of a button, while also waiting for your GCD.
    why is this different from what the G15 does?
    I'm using a G15 also and been using this functionality for over 2 years and no ban... because there is absolutely no reason to ban you for this, because it can be simulated with in-game macros.
    No, you can't do that. /cast is a secure function and can not be used like that. Try it if you don't believe me.

    So, there is absolutely a reason to ban you.
    Last edited by Obsession; 2011-08-02 at 12:31 PM. Reason: removed some part of it.

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    If you'd used the proper syntax
    Code:
    /in t /command
    Ex.:
    Code:
    /in 2 /cast spell
    your /in provider would have told you that it cannot delay the secure slash command /cast.

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