***This thread is subject to change and is a work in progress***
Pre-note:
Calculations were based on a Mastery Heavy build pre patch, see further down the thread
Table of Contents
I: BiS List TG Fury
II: BiS List SMF
III: BiS List Arms
IV: New Damage Breakdowns TG (4.3)
V: Specific Dragon Soul boss fight tips on min/max
VI: TG vs. SMF and Arms in 4.3
VII: Hit vs Mastery in 4.2 and 4.3
VIII: Credits
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I: BiS List TG Fury:PRE NOTE:
Stat priorities through reforging changed post 4.2 patch
New order or priority is now (ASSUMING YOU HAVE T13 2SET)
26 exp > Hit (to 17% marker) >= Crit (equal to Hit at 17%) > Haste > Mastery
Helm Colossal Dragonplate Helmet
Enchant: Arcanum of the Dragonmaw
Gems: Reverberating Shadowspirit Diamond (Meta), Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Crit -> Hit
Drop Location: Warmaster Blackhorn - Dragon Soul Heroic
Neck: Necklace of Black Dragon's Teeth
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Valor Points 1250
Shoulders: Backbreaker Spaulders
Enchant: Greater Inscription of Jagged Stone
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Spine of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Cloak: Dreamcrusher Drape
Enchant: Enchant Cloak - Greater Critical Strike
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Valor Points 1250
Chest: Colossal Dragonplate Battleplate
Enchant: Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2), Inscribed Lava Coral (Yellow)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Bracers: Rockhide Bracers
Enchant: Enchant Bracer - Major Strength
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Morchok - Dragon Soul Heroic
Gloves: Colossal Dragonplate Gauntlets
Enchant: Enchant Gloves - Mighty Strength
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Warlord Zon'ozz - Dragon Soul Heroic
Waist: Runescriven Demon Collar
Enchant: Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Redx3)
Reforge: Mast -> Hit
Drop Location: Hagara the Stormbinder - Dragon Soul Heroic
Legs: Colossal Dragonplate Legplates
Enchant: Dragonscale Leg Armor
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x3)
Reforge: Mastery -> Crit
Drop Location: Yor'sahj The Unsleeping - Dragon Soul Heroic
Boots: Treads of Crushed Flesh
Enchant: Enchant Boots - Lavawalker
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Warlord Zon'ozz Heroic
Ring 1: Breathstealer Band
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit for 691 exp cap, Mastery -> Expertise for 781 exp cap
Drop Location: Random Boss Drop - Dragon Soul Heroic
Ring 2: Curled Twilight Claw
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Mastery -> Crit
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 1: Creche of the Final Dragon
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 2: Eye of Unmaking
Drop Location: Spine of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 3: Bone-Link Fetish
Drop Location: Random Boss Drop - Dragon Soul Heroic
Main Hand: Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
Enchant: Enchant Weapon - Landslide
Drop Location: Madness of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Off-Hand: Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
Enchant: Enchant Weapon - Landslide
Drop Location: Madness of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Ranged: Darting Chakram
Reforge: Expertise -> Hit for 691 exp cap, Crit -> Hit for 781 exp cap
Drop Location: Valor Points 700
CAPS: EXP: 689 for Human like Racials
797 for Worgen like Racials
II: BiS List SMF
Helm Colossal Dragonplate Helmet
Enchant: Arcanum of the Dragonmaw
Gems: Reverberating Shadowspirit Diamond (Meta), Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Crit -> HIt
Drop Location: Warmaster Blackhorn - Dragon Soul Heroic
Neck: Necklace of Black Dragon's Teeth
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Valor Points 1250
Shoulders: Backbreaker Spaulders
Enchant: Greater Inscription of Jagged Stone
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Spine of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Cloak: Dreamcrusher Drape
Enchant: Enchant Cloak - Greater Critical Strike
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Valor Points 1250
Chest: Colossal Dragonplate Battleplate
Enchant: Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2), Inscribed Lava Coral (Yellow)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Bracers: Rockhide Bracers
Enchant: Enchant Bracer - Major Strength
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Morchok - Dragon Soul Heroic
Gloves: Colossal Dragonplate Gauntlets
Enchant: Enchant Gloves - Mighty Strength
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Warlord Zon'ozz - Dragon Soul Heroic
Waist: Runescriven Demon Collar
Enchant: Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Redx3)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Hagara the Stormbinder - Dragon Soul Heroic
Legs: Colossal Dragonplate Legplates
Enchant: Dragonscale Leg Armor
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x3)
Reforge: Mastery -> Crit
Drop Location: Yor'sahj The Unsleeping - Dragon Soul Heroic
Boots: Treads of Crushed Flesh
Enchant: Enchant Boots - Lavawalker
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Warlord Zon'ozz Heroic
Ring 1: Breathstealer Band
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit for 691 exp cap, Mastery -> Exp for 781 exp cap
Drop Location: Random Boss Drop - Dragon Soul Heroic
Ring 2: Curled Twilight Claw
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Mastery -> Crit
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 1: Creche of the Final Dragon
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 2: Eye of Unmaking
Drop Location: Spine of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 3: Bone-Link Fetish
Drop Location: Random Boss Drop - Dragon Soul Heroic
Main Hand: Hand of Morchok
Enchant: Enchant Weapon - Landslide
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Morchok Heroic
Off-Hand: Hand of Morchok
Enchant: Enchant Weapon - Landslide
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Morchok Heroic
Ranged: Darting Chakram
Reforge: Expertise -> Hit for 691 exp cap, Crit -> Hit for 781 exp cap
Drop Location: Valor Points 700
CAPS: EXP: 689 for Human like Racials
797 for Worgen like Racials
III: BiS List Arms
Helm Colossal Dragonplate Helmet
Enchant: Arcanum of the Dragonmaw
Gems: Reverberating Shadowspirit Diamond (Meta), Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Warmaster Blackhorn - Dragon Soul Heroic
Neck: Necklace of Black Dragon's Teeth
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Valor Points 1250
Shoulders: Backbreaker Spaulders
Enchant: Greater Inscription of Jagged Stone
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Spine of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Cloak: Dreamcrusher Drape
Enchant: Enchant Cloak - Greater Critical Strike
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Valor Points 1250
Chest: Colossal Dragonplate Battleplate
Enchant: Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2), Inscribed Lava Coral (Yellow)
Reforge: Mastery -> Crit
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Bracers: Rockhide Bracers
Enchant: Enchant Bracer - Major Strength
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: Mastery -> Hit
Drop Location: Morchok - Dragon Soul Heroic
Gloves: Colossal Dragonplate Gauntlets
Enchant: Enchant Gloves - Mighty Strength
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Hit -> Mastery
Drop Location: Warlord Zon'ozz - Dragon Soul Heroic
Waist: Runescriven Demon Collar
Enchant: Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Redx3)
Reforge: Haste -> Crit
Drop Location: Hagara the Stormbinder - Dragon Soul Heroic
Legs: Colossal Dragonplate Legplates
Enchant: Dragonscale Leg Armor
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x3)
Reforge: Mastery -> Crit
Drop Location: Yor'sahj The Unsleeping - Dragon Soul Heroic
Boots: Treads of Crushed Flesh
Enchant: Enchant Boots - Lavawalker
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red x2)
Reforge: None
Drop Location: Warlord Zon'ozz Heroic
Ring 1: Breathstealer Band
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Haste -> Crit for 691 exp cap, Haste -> Expertise for 781 exp cap
Drop Location: Random Boss Drop - Dragon Soul Heroic
Ring 2: Curled Twilight Claw
Gems: Bold Queen's Garnet (Red)
Reforge: Hit -> Crit
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 1: Creche of the Final Dragon
Drop Location: Ultraxion - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 2: Eye of Unmaking
Drop Location: Spine of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Trinket 3: Bone-Link Fetish
Drop Location: Random Boss Drop - Dragon Soul Heroic
Main Hand: Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
Enchant: Enchant Weapon - Landslide
Drop Location: Madness of Deathwing - Dragon Soul Heroic
Ranged: Darting Chakram
Reforge: Expertise -> Mastery for 691 exp cap, None for 781 exp cap
Drop Location: Valor Points 700
IV: Damage Breakdowns (FuryTG)CAPS: EXP: 689 for Human like Racials
797 for Worgen like Racials
HIT: 959 (2 of cap)
V: Specific Dragon Soul fight wise tips/minmax
For Arms
Morchok: *Get 2 more globals in when black stuff starts to spawn, it wont hurt yet
*Leap out and charge back in so your LOTS wont reset if done properly
*Save BR for Stomps and/or Crystal soaking for rage income
*On heroic, if you don't use a 4 tank strat and your 2nd soaker dies, you can replace him using shie ld wall glyphed
Warlord: * SS Boss/Claws on heroic
* Glyph victory rush on heroic, enables you to solo a flail + eye without needing a healer for 20 is h seconds
* Deadly Calm asap so you can use it on cd when going back on boss ( on heroic)
Yor'sahj * Use Bladestorm glyph for sustained AoE, you're barely slamming here anyway because of target switc hing
Spine * Drop Hit and Exp because of everything being lvl 87
More added later
VI: vs. SMF and Arms
[added later]
VII: Hit vs Mastery as of 4.3
[U]Current T12 BiS stats:
http://chardev.org/?profile=228990
**Mastery and Hit comparison 4.2**
Mastery: 921 rating or 7.14
Hit: 1370 rating or 14.41%
Simc stat weights: (bottom line)
Note: Difference is minimal and most if not all warriors have still chosen for a hit heavy viability simply because it smoothens rage regen and making flurry/enrage uptiming easier. (Although quite a few warriors use the enhanced Death Wish at start of a fight)
So, to get back to the original ratingsThis would turn into: (dps contribution per stat)Mastery: 921 rating, Hit: 1370 rating
1370x2,13373665949621 = 1965,1337 (for Hit)
921x2,14300938503584= 2935,9 (for Mastery)
Conclusion: The turning point of Mastery outweighing Hit is somewhere around the 390 ilvl mark, but this doesn't mean it'll ALWAYS result you in a better outcome on eDps assuming you do a flawless rotation
**Mastery vs Hit comparison 4.3**
Current T13 BiS stats
Mastery: 2724
Hit: 654 or 8.23%
(dps contribution per stat)Mastery: 2724
Hit: 654 or 8.23%
Turns into:
2724x2.356= 6417.744 (for Mastery)
654x2.1865= 1429.971 (for Hit)
Conclusion: While doing this full Mastery reforging, the Hit obviously lacks as you might have noticed. I just made these calcs to make the uprise of Mastery clear in terms of statweights. I reckon there's going to be a mix of mastery and hit reforging, will have to wait and see what the perfect setup will be but your Mastery reforging will for sure have to be > than the 4.2 mastery value you had in 380 ish gear to be of a positive DPS impact to your dps i.e not be suboptimal.
Note: My calculations may be slightly of as I overvalued Mastery for above stated reasons but I just made it so the mastery vs hit thing becomes somewhat more clear
VII: Credits
Credits to Sinnermighty and others to follow for providing parses
Taken stats from Landsoul's spreadsheet
Crunchycooki for Gurthalak testing
Multiple testers of Gurthalak on the interwebs