I paypal will let me send 1/1 millionth of a penny I'll recoop you your share of the cost.Because it's my money they took that they're wasting.
I remember my Gov teacher telling us about 500$ cigarette trays on submarines
It's infinitely more complicated than that, say they have 50 dollars and they take a loan out to buy alcohol for 60 dollars, that 60 dollars is spent and then in turn because they government makes profit from those employed (the people they are paying to serve them alcohol) etc, etc, they gain that money back at a small rate, maybe theyll make back 58 dollars of what they spent, yes they'll be 2 dollars in debt, but at the same time some guy will also have a job. All this thread does is prove that people have absolutely no understand of how the whole job market works. The reason we are in debt isn't because of "wasteful" spending, its the migration of jobs and ridiculous amount of machine technology that has put millions out of work, that coupled with the growing need for more specalized educated jobs.
It's selfishness. No one cares about the consequences of anything unless it directly impacts them. I would never throw away money on muffins that are a thousand percent overpriced, because I actually have to work for my money. It's a shame that my money is taken away through taxes so they can just throw it away. I need money for basic needs...it would go to better use if they just let me keep it. I know that a good portion of tax dollars does go towards things that we actually need such as infrastructure but come on, this is ridiculous.
You are acting as though it is in a vacuum though, and that it is a choice between them getting 16 dollar muffins catered or not eating. They could simply get some cheaper muffins and not have them catered. Still giving a business profit and giving them jobs, but saving some money in the process.
Saving money as a government does nothing, your goal isn't to save money and stagnate wealth, it is to actually help create jobs so that people can buy more things and in turn provide more tax revenue. Them saving doesn't really help at all. Yes they can go buy 4 dollar muffins, but who is to say that by buying those 16 dollar muffins they don't create more tax revenue to counter the cost of them and in turn allowing more people to be employed at a higher rate than the 4 dollar muffins. You're implying it takes the exact number of ppl to make 4 dollar muffins as it does the 16 dollar muffins and that includes the food and the ppl who make it and the ppl who cater. I mean in the end you're dealing with a massive research equation that begs the question which provides a better economic impact buying the 4 or 16 dollar muffins, because in the end both of the choices stimulate jobs its just a matter of how much. My issue is ppl seeing the 16 dollar muffins and utterly forgetting that maybe the 16 dollar muffins cost more because they require more work overall and in turn employing several more actual employees at a higher rate.
Last edited by xile; 2011-09-21 at 10:29 PM.
Yes, let's have McDonalds cater for government meetings. Good God have some perspective, people. This isn't some friendly brunch among friends.
Let us whine about catered snacks at some random government conference. This will clearly eliminate the national debt.
This kind of horse shit story is something for local news at best.
Hurp derp, I do understand how job market works, but I was just answering that other guys more individualized post and not taking part in the thread as a whole.
Oh and for that "ridiculous amount of machine technology", you need to remember that if having a machine in place of a worker is more profitable, then of course the employer will have machine instead. I know I would. Sucks for the employee, but what can you do.
Government should only use food the government grows itself.Goverment should butt out of the private sector.
I'm not blaming the companies lol. I mean i'm all for companies trying their hardest to maximize their profits, i'm vehemently against people who think that the government should let companies do whatever they want because i realize how companies want to act, they want to ship all production facilities to other countries and provide as much machine operated work as possible, it's absolutely in their best interest as a company. Hence why i could most definately see this country becoming one that starts to employ a more educated job area, where we see the world split into two, the 1st world companies dealing with all the complex and higher up procedures due to education, and the third world countries dealing with all the production side. I'm not blaming the companies i'm just saying that the reason we have so much unemployment is much more complicated than saying, well the government is wasteful.
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Why?? People are always like, the government is killing the private sector, even though most private sector business are absolutely destroying their previous profits. The reason small businesses are dying is because places like walmart and mcdonalds make it impossible for small businesses to compete, not because of too much taxation on them. Small business can't compete because walmart can go and buy mass products in bulk from exclusive deals across seas. and even if they can compete with their prices that they won't, it won't matter because right now there is more than enough supply of products to meet the demand. companies aren't going to hire people just because unless there is an incentive.
Last edited by xile; 2011-09-21 at 10:41 PM.
I may be wrong on this, but a using tax money to receive tax (unless it isn't tax money and then just ignore this) seems more like kicking yourself. Tax coming from the % of revenue the company receives, and so making up random numbers, spending $16 to yield $3 in taxes, ultimately you'll be gaining less and less.
As for the $16 costing more labor and such, you'll be surprised at how little the food cost of baked goods are.