this summarizes my opinion quite well.
If THIS is what you are referencing, that is from the PTR with absolute BiS gear. Currently, on live, Ret is nowhere near the top.
Last edited by Dakia; 2011-10-11 at 02:29 PM.
DKs... they were the best tanks, now the worst (even if viable)
They had the best DPS Spec last patch unholy DW, now its totally unusable...
Unholy 2hand was one of the best, now its the worst melee spec and one of the worst dps of all
2hand frost is as bad as unholy in PVE
DW frost is the only good spec DKS have for PVE and still its middle table
How can ppl say paladins, when they are the best tank healers and the best tank you can get?? Ok ret is not so good but its not that far from frost when you have the gear for it.
And Warriors are awesome tanks, as good as paladins, except that palas have better cds. Plus fury is the best melee spec all?
Mages really? PVE? LOL
The guy that made this is probably a Paladin or just plays PVP...
this is not representative of PVE at all...
Palas won't even be happy when they have the 3 best specs in game, they will still complain...
ANW If we talk about individual specs, ret palas can complain, but about classes in general? Paladins are at the top...
Last edited by mmocf9f29600a1; 2011-10-11 at 02:34 PM.
DKs, especially unholy.
Gone from Tank with a pet that would self-ressurrect upon death and didn't even have to press any buttons to hold aoe threat (original unholy blight was insane) to can't-even-tank-with-that-spec-anymore in 1 expansion. Also nomore unholy blight, nomore corpse explosion, nomore shadow of death
You know what is better than drinking a beer? Brewing your own beer. And then drinking it. And then... Drinking another beer. And then, punching somebody in the snout! That's what!
I think that the majority of paladins realize that we are pretty much the best tank at the moment. We are also the best tank healer despite Blizzard's best efforts to try and make us able to raid heal (which hasn't worked out). I don't think that you'll see anyone arguing these points.
Ret, however, is a different story entirely. Ret is definitely up there for the most nerfed class. The ret nerfs and buffs are like a terrible amusement park roller coaster.
I vote warclok just because of the misspell.
This is obvious though - inb4 DailyBrink picture -> Paladin... DUH!
Warriors!
The better you scale with gear. the more they nerf you
daily blink poster a few days ago with the "nerf-Buff" levers had it spot on. paladins all the way ret or otherwise (yay my 4pc takes my spell back to pre-nerf levels)
for those of you who remember the worldending paladin buffs:
Yes, paladins have two excellent specs. I'm not arguing that. I'm simply saying that paladins receive a lot of nerfs. Granted, this is mostly in the ret tree, but the class does ride the nerf roller coaster on a consistent basis.
This isn't the 'What is the worst class' discussion.