Is avoiding the enrage timer on The Butcher an bannable exploit?

[Jersovic]

This Barbarian in my group showed me that you can stand at the bottom of The Butcher's room and not take any fire damage at all (even after the enrage timer has gone off). My question is, is this a bannable offense or is this how the game is suppose to work?

[Andra-Arts]

I believe this would be flagged as an exploit so if they did it multiple times on purpose and Blizz found out they could get a ban.

[Darsithis]

This isn't world of warcraft...and I suspect you don't get banned from stuff like that. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

[pinkink]

They will hot fix this like the many wizard exploits and I doubt anyone gets banned for it. I just wouldn't rely on a strategy like this to work forever so learn to beat him without exploiting.

[Zula95]

This Barbarian in my group showed me that you can stand at the bottom of The Butcher's room and not take any fire damage at all (even after the enrage timer has gone off). My question is, is this a bannable offense or is this how the game is suppose to work?

Why would you need to even wait for enrage timer? I've only killed him solo but as a barb with about 8k dps I killed him and got the under 120 seconds on inferno, its really not that hard if you move out of fire and avoid his big hits that he charges up. But I think blizzard would see it as an exploit and punish for it.

[Tomhvk]

Is it a small area or just a single spot out of interest? Guessing you would need to aviod smash and charge

[Jersovic]

Why would you need to even wait for enrage timer? I've only killed him solo but as a barb with about 8k dps I killed him and got the under 120 seconds on inferno, its really not that hard if you move out of fire and avoid his big hits that he charges up. But I think blizzard would see it as an exploit and punish for it.

Probably because we are both Melees with shields. But no, the real reason is about 80% of the groups I play with don't have the DPS (because they die like 2-3 times and lose a lot of uptime). I can solo The Butcher easy, but finding a random "public group" who can down him before the Enrage timer is sort of rare. Especially when you don't want to lose your stacks of Neph. Valor.

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I consider this friend slightly above average when it comes to farming Act 1, but he is horrible at The Butcher. He died three times (one shot), and of course the enrage timer went off. So I decided to go ahead and run down to the bottom of the room (got hooked back, popped serenity and ran back down), and solo him. This is the second time I've done it and it works so well that I find it almost impossible not to do it after the enrage timer goes off. It's like trying to drown yourself when you know how to swim. :-(

[vian]

If it's bannable, then having him die by his own fire by just not releasing should be bannable aswell.

Not sure if works anymore tho.

[Deleted]

Blizz have said that they're going to hotfix the biggest issues like the invincible monk party, and non-hotfix others, because sometimes being powerful is fun. At no point have they mentionede meting out bans.

[Jersovic]

Blizz have said that they're going to hotfix the biggest issues like the invincible monk party, and non-hotfix others, because sometimes being powerful is fun. At no point have they mentionede meting out bans.

I was actually not sure if this was considered an exploit, or if this is how the game was intended to work? Running to the bottom of the room isn't going to save very many ranged DPS who cannot tank The Butcher, but it gives Tanks with LOW DPS a way to handle The Butcher's enrage timer? For instance, most tanks I know have 8K DPS, and most DHs I know have 40K DPS. It seems like the Enrage Timer would not be fair if it discriminated against both melee and ranged when their DPS is no where near equal, so maybe it was placed in the game solely for melee classes?

[Tomhvk]

Blizz have said that they're going to hotfix the biggest issues like the invincible monk party, and non-hotfix others, because sometimes being powerful is fun. At no point have they mentionede meting out bans.

Invincible Monk party whaaaaa? Can you explain how it works?

[Deleted]

i think enragetimer in D3 is another story related to WoW its not a oneshot enrage so if u try to survive
( it is possible to stand ALL the time in fire as monk :> )
it should not be bannable
BUT if u do it on purpose standing there then u should ask urself is this right? :P

[Deleted]

I don't think these things are banable in Diablo. Would this even be banable in WoW? He doesn't do anything special (engineering grenades on LK), he just found a spot where the boss' AoE doesn't hit you, for all we know it could be put there on purpose.

[Lucetia]

I don't think these things are banable in Diablo. Would this even be banable in WoW? He doesn't do anything special (engineering grenades on LK), he just found a spot where the boss' AoE doesn't hit you, for all we know it could be put there on purpose.

Eh, not sure if it's bannable or not (as I don't know if they are planning on banning anyone or only if they hack). But yea, it would be considered an exploit simply because as you said you can avoid taking damage after the "enrage timer". The timer is put there for a reason and if you find a way to circumvent it without taking damage then that is definitely not something that is intended and should be fixed soon.

[IdowhatIwant]

I had 21k hp on barb on my first kill and I didn't get 1 shot by butcher, far from it. You guys really need to start building resist sets instead of getting carried through inferno by friends.

[Woebegone]

I really doubt they'll start banning people for anything apart from genuine hacking. The always-online requirement was a hard enough sell to begin with. Now try telling people, especially the ones playing it as a single player game, that they're no longer allowed to play because they played it 'wrong'. What kind of a shitstorm would you expect?

[Cludo]

I highly doubt it's bannable, Maybe they will give you a warning if they can find out.
Most probably be hot fixed tonight/tomorrow if not, next week for sure

[fangless]

Invincible Monk party whaaaaa? Can you explain how it works?

One of their abilities used to give X seconds of invulnerability, and when you had 4 of them in group, it covered the duration of the skill CD.

[Calamari]

I wouldn't farm him with this method, Blizz can be surprisingly harsh with punishing players for their own game design flaws (in this case they messed up with the rooms map design).

Once you're at about 10k dps or so and a bit of physical resistance, you'll just blow him up anyway. Much faster.

[jonte912]

I don't think these things are banable in Diablo. Would this even be banable in WoW? He doesn't do anything special (engineering grenades on LK), he just found a spot where the boss' AoE doesn't hit you, for all we know it could be put there on purpose.

didn't the guys that 2 manned that vehicle boss in ulduar (by standing in opposite corners) get banned?