Here's how I see it-- guy and girl are friends. Girl sees little to no romantic potential in guy, because if she did they'd be more than just friends. Guy does see romantic potential in girl because they are friends, and if she makes a good friend then why wouldn't she make a good girlfriend?
Big surprise, I know, but men and women have different perspectives on romance and sex. It seems that women tend to draw more distinctions between what is friend-material and date-material, and men tend to be more dynamic and laid-back as to what they consider a potential paramour. Neither is right and neither is wrong, but it's worth acknowledging that these differences exist and it causes some interesting social interactions.
I'm confused, didn't you say that you can separate the two?
I don't think anyone's personal tastes are more valid. All I'm driving at is that you shouldn't be applying those personal tastes to everyone else and saying that they must be the case for everyone. I'm sure some people are incapable of having female friends. I'm equally sure that other people are better at it than I am.
First off, I never claimed everyone felt the same way as me.
I've posted research in this thread explaining how most men are just as emotional as women (but don't show it) and the research paper in the OP is from a peer reviewed journal. It might not be an exhaustive study but it sure as hell means more research should be done.
What if it came back as a 5000 person study with the same results? Would you continue to say it (and people like me who think it accurately represents the overall population) was full of shit?
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Chances are good that if you're not aware she's related to her, you'd find her much more attractive than otherwise. We tend to find familiarity attractive... and what's more familiar than blood?
Obviously if you KNEW you were related you couldn't do anything, but it would make family reunions pretty fucking awkward.
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No I said I CAN'T. I did say that emotion doesn't necessarily have to be love though.
I'm not suggesting that I speak for all menI don't think anyone's personal tastes are more valid. All I'm driving at is that you shouldn't be applying those personal tastes to everyone else and saying that they must be the case for everyone. I'm sure some people are incapable of having female friends. I'm equally sure that other people are better at it than I am.
"In fact I don't think it's possible for a guy to be sexually attracted to a woman and then say he wouldn't have sex with her if he were being totally honest."
I never said that the study was full of shit, I merely responded to your hypotheticals and your blanket claims.I've posted research in this thread explaining how most men are just as emotional as women (but don't show it) and the research paper in the OP is from a peer reviewed journal. It might not be an exhaustive study but it sure as hell means more research should be done.
What if it came back as a 5000 person study with the same results? Would you continue to say it (and people like me who think it accurately represents the overall population) was full of shit?
In this case, yes actually. Assuming I just use your current statement to imply that you can't separate sex and emotion, considering the topic at hand, your opinion does become alittle invalid. You would only be able to answer it from the viewpoint of sex with all attractive female friends, and not be able to "understand" how others can possibly go without doing it assuming the girl was willing.
I'm also not saying that I wouldn't want to. The desire doesn't go away simply because of the potential problem caused by it. But that potential problem also is the reason I will not let it become anything more than a random desire. So I might want to, but whether I actually do is something else.
there is a lot of truth to that, if a guy and a girl are friends, the girl has usually already decided that she isn't into the guy romantically. however there ARE still a million girls out there stuck in friendships with guys they pine for and wish like crazy he would notice that she feels more for him.
"Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't mean the person actually said it." - Thomas Jefferson
Perhaps I misspoke and should have said "It's really hard for me to believe a guy can be sexually attracted to someone and decline sex with them if the opportunity arises.
The problem, though, is that you attack the semantics of the argument rather than the argument itself.
This whole topic seems to be very dependent on the individual.
And to be honest, I really can't be asked to walk on eggshells and make sure to cross the Ts and dot the Is on an internet forum.
I'm a dude in his house in NJ. Not a political adviser in DC. If you can't look at an argument for what it is rather than the semantics surrounding it then I don't frankly care.
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I wasn't attacking the semantics, you presented a different argument.
I understand what you mean, but don't be surprised if the argument you presented isn't what you meant to present. I very likely do the same thing.And to be honest, I really can't be asked to walk on eggshells and make sure to cross the Ts and dot the Is on an internet forum.
I'm a dude in his house in NJ. Not a political adviser in DC. If you can't look at an argument for what it is rather than the semantics surrounding it then I don't frankly care.
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Again, if you can't be bothered to care that just because someone uses a blanket statement doesn't mean they actually believe it applies to 100% of a group (eg. "The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Everyone knows that.") Then I don't really care to clean it up for you.
I'm not a fucking politician. I don't need your vote and I don't need to make sure every sentence I type out has its meaning laid out crystal clear.
So again, if you have nothing to do but attack which words I use in a statement rather than the intent therein (Much less read the goddamn thread in which I explicitly state several times I don't speak for all men. But then you would have known that had you actually read it.) then you and I, frankly, have nothing to discuss because we're talking about two different things.
I think this thread went way off somewhere at page 3-4. People started commenting about the fact that men and women can be friends....
Thats NOT the issue at hand, the real issue is "Can men and women JUST be friends"
Thats is a totally different discussion.
Can you move back to the right one pls?