Originally Posted by
Nairobi
Meh, it's still a big, shiny "hey look out, damage incoming in t-minus 10 seconds" effect. On a 1-min CD.
Vs.
Holy Prism, with a GCD that scales with haste, and a 20 sec CD on it that can either nuke/splash heal or heal/AOE dmg. It's so far ahead of ES in PVP in terms of utility, burst, and effectiveness it's not even a contest. LH changes, while paltry and actually more useful for HOLY than ret, weren't terrible.
No, what we need are actual survival CDs, less "gimmick heals" to be based around, and an actual melee tool-kit instead of a "pick 1 of 3 things needed for any melee" option we have now.
DivProt (with or without glyph) always makes you feel like a "grass is greener" cooldown. Glyphed, it seems like casters eat you for breakfast; unglyphed, you pray for no melee to come at you. Glyph of TV helped some, and I'm thankful for it, but we still go down after bubble drops/is dispelled.
Selfless Healer makes us walking bullseye's in arena; As if we needed more reason to get trained, now it's spam dispels on Ret to remove freedom/SH stacks so he can't offheal nuke, and train him so he has to WOG. Easiest kill target bar none, yet still random BG noobs cry "OP" at 3-stack FoL crits on people.
We cried for an interrupt outside of (dispellable) HoJ on a 1min CD, and finally got one 6 years later. We cried for a snare since jump street, finally got one 8 years later (not counting the 100% "snare" of SoJ). We cried for a gap-closer like every other melee. We cried for some sort of ranged CC. So, what do they do? "Here, we gave you ALL of what you are asking for" Wow, really? Thanks Blizz! "Sure, now just pick which one you want!" Trololol. "Oh, and we took away repentance, CD-redux on HoJ, and Long-Arm/PoJ in our talent sweep, and gave them to Holy. So be sure to pick which of those you want too".
I still play Ret in BGs/arena, and do OK. However, I get on my DK or Spriest or warrior, with no gear and can run circles around my Ret. I miss SOME of the classes abilities (namely our support for teammates, un-kitableness against baddies, and trolling with Bubble), but for actual DAMAGE DEALING, the class is stuck about 1-2 expansions in the past.