That's actually a potentially good idea, as far as explaining why the Alliance doesn't occupy Orgrimmar, but it won't happen. Blizzard hasn't even announced the title of the next expansion yet.
Although Blizzard would have to do it in such a way that it doesn't come off as the Alliance going "Infernals? Fuck you guys, we're outta here", but still allow the Horde to keep Orgrimmar as more than smoking, Infernal-infested ruin.
Even from a lore perspective, we need to consider that the Horde rebellion might not be happy about being occupied. We don't know exactly how the Alliance and Horde rebels forces will compare when the dust settles, but there is little reason to assume the Alliance will be free to do whatever they please over the objections of the Horde rebels.
It's likely true that the Alliance has more troops available worldwide then the rebels do, but there is little reason to assume the Alliance have abandoned every other front on the planet. The rebels on the other hand have the home field advantage and are almost entirely focused on taking back Orgrimmar.
I think the Alliance is in a position to either receive some concessions or (as I proposed above) destroy the Underhold to make a point. However it's important they don't overreach and end up starting a completely new war that even if they do ultimately win would be an uphill battle with enormous. Even Wrathion believed the war would last for another year had the Alliance attempted to conquer Orgrimmar outright.
This isn't Berlin since Berlin had basically no anti-fascist partisans fighting alongside the Allies. In countries like Italy where there were lots of anti-fascist rebels, there was no serious post-war occupation (though Italy did make some territorial concessions).
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Roleplaying, hardcore Raiding, running LFR on the occasional weekend, PvPing, rolling alts, achievement hunting, pet battling, or just enacting an endless series of whims, I don't care how you play WoW. Just as long as you have fun doing it.
Hopefully there will be some sort of "cliffhanger" in the final cinematic that will set up a world event for the pre-expansion launch.
start drumming up some excitement!
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Cliffhangers are okay when you're talking about a T.V. show, where you only have to wait until the next week to find out that *SPOILER* Hector looks at him */ENDSPOILER*. They're okay in books where, if you really want the answer, you can keep reading for as long as you like. As for a game like WoW, no thanks, I've been waiting for this question to be answered since MoP was announced, I'd rather not wait for a future patch.
Under the circumstances, I wouldn't expect the Alliance to be free to do whatever they please, or even wish to. But they would definitely want to maintain a presence in Orgrimmar. There is simply no way they would participate in dethroning Garrosh, then simply hand the keys to Vol'jin, when the Horde has been belligerent to the point of total war not once, not twice, but thrice.
Destroying the Underhold would have all the impact of destroying Hitler's bunker. It does absolutely nothing to promote the Alliance's future security. The only way to do that is to maintain a presence in the city.I think the Alliance is in a position to either receive some concessions or (as I proposed above) destroy the Underhold to make a point. However it's important they don't overreach and end up starting a completely new war that even if they do ultimately win would be an uphill battle with enormous. Even Wrathion believed the war would last for another year had the Alliance attempted to conquer Orgrimmar outright.
The Italians deposed Mussolini and flipped sides on their own, before the war ended. Ergo, it's not a relevant analogy. Heck, the Russians occupied Paris for a while after the Napoleonic Wars.This isn't Berlin since Berlin had basically no anti-fascist partisans fighting alongside the Allies. In countries like Italy where there were lots of anti-fascist rebels, there was no serious post-war occupation (though Italy did make some territorial concessions).
There is just no realistic way the Alliance simply hands the next warchief the keys and leaves, short of the intervention of something like the Burning Legion invading. Not after two previous Horde instigated wars, the Wrathgate, and Garrosh's war.
Great, now I have to restart an old project of mine of a Saurfang HOPE style poster... LOL
#VoteSaurfang2013
"Ah... you have learned much... and learned well... an honorable battle.
In the end, I stood by the warchief, because it was my duty, and I am glad that it was you who struck me down.
May your strength... lead the horde... into a new era of prosperity..."
-General Nazgrim
It'll probably be a surprise, or a more obscure choice. But my money is on Saurfang.
Man, I've got bags under my eyes... BAGS OF MONEY!
See ya later, peasants.
Praise The Sun!
Alliance will kill Garrosh.
"Ah... you have learned much... and learned well... an honorable battle.
In the end, I stood by the warchief, because it was my duty, and I am glad that it was you who struck me down.
May your strength... lead the horde... into a new era of prosperity..."
-General Nazgrim
If Varian chooses the I believe it will be Saurfang.
Varian will understand the Saurfang is a father and after losing his son understands the true price of war and further conflict. What happens after that I am not sure.
Or maybe Varian demands that door the Alliance to leave with Jaina standing there with an "Iris" empowered blast ready and Tyrande with an army of Night Elves on the border of Ashenvale ready to strike along with the Alliance forces already in place, that the Alliance will not leave unless the Orcs agree to Varians demands including the Orc racial leader. Varian will designate the council who will choose the next Warchief.
Or something like that.
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Dave Kosak's interview with Panser also confirms that the Warchief will be chosen at the end of the Raid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teSvUPm-x6s
Pretty excited about it, dont even care who it is at this point, just want to know.
"Ah... you have learned much... and learned well... an honorable battle.
In the end, I stood by the warchief, because it was my duty, and I am glad that it was you who struck me down.
May your strength... lead the horde... into a new era of prosperity..."
-General Nazgrim
You gotta be kidding by saying Varian is a Badass. It's obvious that any Horde leader is better than Horde, cause every Hordie is grown up between Evil and Good, and we do Badass things to make Horde be on top always. Alliance just talks about Justice and angels... '-'
Saurfang or baine. Someone to please the alliance but still a strong guy... However I see Thrall's son as a predestined!