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  1. #21
    Definitely not Arms, bad rng can actually lock you out of your rotation.

  2. #22
    I guess feral, I'm playing it for world quests and old content, and I haven't saw some RNG related to it, only RNG is double combo points you can get.

  3. #23
    Just don't pick unholy, its RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG. And you need to hit a lot of those RNG just to be mid teir.

  4. #24
    Crit rating gives a lot of RNG to all classes, I guess.

    Myself, as an assassination rogue, get double combo points when mutilate crits, which obviously translates in more finishers and more deeps.

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    Sin rogue is incredibly reliable. There are zero ability procs; the only RNG that affects your rotation is critting with Mut and getting an extra CP.
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    Balance doesn't have much RNG. The only proc is from Starsurge and all that does is fire off an artifact ability. It doesn't change your playstyle. There are a couple legendaries that change up your playstyle but that shouldn't deter you from playing the class.

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    Fire Mage. once you get the Crit you need its not realy RNG anymore.

  8. #28
    I'll try sub on my rogue and see how it goes.

    Would just like to be in totally control of my dps and not be reliant on procs.

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    I really disagree with the concept that RNG = unreliable = bad DPS.

    This is not the case at all. Yeah, theres some variation, but they are also moments of opportunity.

    Besides, things that change up the monotony are things to be thankful for.

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    Balance druid doesn't have a single unpredictable proc. If you would be able to stand still the entire time, you could press the exact same buttons every single time and get the same result (With the exception of crits obviously). Assuming you don't have a mastery trinket to snapshot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
    I really disagree with the concept that RNG = unreliable = bad DPS.

    This is not the case at all. Yeah, theres some variation, but they are also moments of opportunity.

    Besides, things that change up the monotony are things to be thankful for.
    Bad DPS, no. Unreliable dps, definitely.

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    The new Wind Walker is pretty much the most straight forward and rewarding DPS spec right now.

    What little RNG in the spec is a bonus, whereas other specs need that RNG to compete.

    Also (unless I missed it being fixed) you can tap Crackling Jade Lightning as part of your "rotation" to prevent yourself from pressing the same button twice in a situation where you're either pooling Chi or energy or that free blackout kick comes up in a bad spot.
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  13. #33
    I will only comment on classes I play: DH and lock.
    Demonology Warlock don't have much rng. Avoid the 2 other specs though. Affliction especially is only RNG. Part of the reason why it's supa bad (on top of low numbers).
    Havoc isn't much dependant to RNG and has a steady DPS but it's dependant on having 40-50% crit for energy refound on Chaos Strike.

  14. #34
    RNG reliance is actually very easy to calculate for each and every spec. Just use Simulation craft engine and sim a character over... oh I'd say something like 10000 runs will do the trick. If a difference between min and max is large - class is RNG dependent. If there is very little difference - you basically do not rely on RNG to produce results. You can actually get a rough estimate by just visiting their site and looking at sims posted. Bear in mind though - these sims are for longer 5-6 min fights, so it tends to even things out a bit. Shorter fights will show more min-max differences typically.
    Back to your original question, least RNG dependent classes seem to be Affliction warlocks, Shadow priests, BM hunters and WW monks. But SimCraft front page is broken atm (they transition to 7.1), so for more accurate data you would have to wait untill they sort things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
    I really disagree with the concept that RNG = unreliable = bad DPS.

    This is not the case at all. Yeah, theres some variation, but they are also moments of opportunity.

    Besides, things that change up the monotony are things to be thankful for.
    Some Guys just tend to suck at reacting to Proccs and Priorities, and preferred the old static rotations. But those old rot's are gone, and won't be making a return - and I think that is for the better.

    Nothing more boring than spamming shadow bolt for top dps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    Sin rogue is incredibly reliable. There are zero ability procs; the only RNG that affects your rotation is critting with Mut and getting an extra CP.
    When compared to the utter RNG-fest that is Outlaw, yes. However, Assassination still relies on Bag of Tricks and Blood of the Assassinated procs (at the right time, with buffed rupture) as well as the crit you mentioned. Obviously ST over a longer fight, it won't have that much impact but at ilvl 865, it can make a difference between 380k and 420k DPS for me.

    Especially on burst AoE, Bag of Tricks procs are the only way to get decent DPS. No such procs and you'll be hanging somewhere in the bottom (see assassination performance on Il'gynoth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmerriam005 View Post
    ret paladin, besides gear drops I cant think of anything that is rng in my rotation


    This. There's nothing in rets rotation that is RNG. You can take a few talents that bring some procs/RNG but aside from that there's nothing. Those talents aren't optimal either so it's not necessary. It's a fun rotation especially with crusade, feels good to have no RNG in the rotation.

  18. #38
    WW is probably the most well-designed spec in the game right now.

  19. #39
    Enh sham for sure.

  20. #40
    WW monk. rerolled from hunter which revolved around auto-shot procs for both specs. WW rng is mostly just free kicks which are more like a bonus than a hindrance.

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