Affliction and Touch of the Grave

[Keniwa]

I'm currently Affliction Belf, how much of your dmg does touch of the grave(Undead racial) do for you undead warlocks? I've read that its really good for aff and spriest but all those posts are a couple of years old.

[SpikeySquad]

Races are so close together now that it shouldn't matter but usually Undead is actually one of the lowest simming for locks.

[Baconeggcheese]

iirc its around 1% behind the higher simming races. I think belf was pretty meh as far as racials went with the crit vs trolls and orcs so the difference is likely even smaller.

Haven't looked it up in a while though.

iirc it was good in the past because mastery scaled shadow damage for those specs whereas now it scales specific spells.

[Deleted]

iirc its around 1% behind the higher simming races. I think belf was pretty meh as far as racials went with the crit vs trolls and orcs so the difference is likely even smaller.

Haven't looked it up in a while though.

iirc it was good in the past because mastery scaled shadow damage for those specs whereas now it scales specific spells.

Its a 1% overall but the burst you can get in a short window for trolls/orcs is what makes it good, like on maiden shield or amanthul adds / robots on kingaroth

[Biomega]

DPS-wise the races are incredibly close together. However there are non-DPS utilities to consider that are often more impactful, such as Blood Elf Arcane Torrent, which is absolute boss in M+, or the Human stun-remove racial, Goblin rocket jump etc.

Unless you are literally in a world-first guild competing to push for the tiniest of gains, chances are the impact of race on DPS will just be a blip in the sea of variance, so don't worry too much about it.

[ONCHEhap]

DPS-wise the races are incredibly close together. However there are non-DPS utilities to consider that are often more impactful, such as Blood Elf Arcane Torrent, which is absolute boss in M+, or the Human stun-remove racial, Goblin rocket jump etc.

Unless you are literally in a world-first guild competing to push for the tiniest of gains, chances are the impact of race on DPS will just be a blip in the sea of variance, so don't worry too much about it.

Arcane torrent is actually great for some classes,I know for example that for DKs it can be a very strong bonus (though,more for blood than for other specs)

[Ichology]

Troll's berserking is significantly better than any of the other racials (used correctly), regardless of what sims show.

[Biomega]

Troll's berserking is significantly better than any of the other racials (used correctly), regardless of what sims show.

I guess the verdict's out on how significant "significantly better" is. While it's ahead of other racials to be sure, without any sort of snapshotting mechanic or an abundance of extra damage phases, the difference is usually not that large. Sims are fairly accurate at modeling it outside of those.