So how are your games going lately? [megathread]

[Gandrake]

Alternatively get good enough so you get to a decent enough mmr that you run into these people less.

Honestly though you sound permanently tilted so I doubt you'll ever get anywhere significant unless you do something about your anger issues, I highly doubt you're playing anywhere near the level for your attitude.

eh you can feel how you wanna feel but I have 2 heroes I am really good at and they are incredibly hard for me to play well when there is a shit-tier DPS player locked in on my team. My Reaper is amazing, My Tracer is good, my Soldier is OK. It pisses me off so much because I am forced to play with these players but they are not forced to produce results and somehow that is supposed to be my fault since I get punished for it when my performance is consistent even under pressure most of the time.

People will be like "play with your team" but its like dude my team is afraid of walking onto the point because they are scared they will die, a mercy main has more balls than 90% of people who play this game. It wasn't as much of a problem before since there were not retard proofed heroes like Orisa or Moira and Junkrat was shit tier. But now fucking Hanzo mains and cancer comps are everywhere. It is hard to be good enough to 1v6 an entire team because of that and people just don't understand the team dynamic of Overwatch.

honestly i dont give a shit what rank i am, i could be bronze and i'd still be pissed off about the match quality and the fact that my main acc is complete garbage to me because of how comp has been allowed to stagnate the way it has.

like woo i got a bunch of cool skins on it and i'm level 500 or whatever, cool fuckin beans man because I never play it since I'm tired of carrying legit new players. how fucked up is it to play to become a better player to make your teams stronger so there are less clueless players on your team only to realize they intended to fuck you out of that the entire time?

you're damn right i'm permanently tilted lol

[iddqd]

It's a problem for me as well. I have NEVER had a single evening of playing Overwatch with not wanting to kill someone, shouting loud, throwing insults at my screen and being absolutely mad.

I often enough tried to get rid of these "anger issues" but i cannot, in no game that includes PVP.

I think im going back to WoW Mythic+, much more relaxing.

[rarhyx]

everytime I get to a new season high the next game is 90% a lose :/
it's like i'm not allowed to get to the next rank

[Orby]

Played one game, we lost, I got frustrated, logged out... One of those days where I was just like "Maybe I shouldn't be playing today"

So happy I can control my toxicity urges :P

[Gandrake]

It's a problem for me as well. I have NEVER had a single evening of playing Overwatch with not wanting to kill someone, shouting loud, throwing insults at my screen and being absolutely mad.

I often enough tried to get rid of these "anger issues" but i cannot, in no game that includes PVP.

I think im going back to WoW Mythic+, much more relaxing.

Lol I wish I could go back to WoW but I am so fucking burned out on everything a game like WoW has to offer after playing it for 10 years and FFXIV for 3 years. I used to be so deep into that shit, I couldn't go back if I tried. Way too much commitment for me.

[Endus]

everytime I get to a new season high the next game is 90% a lose :/
it's like i'm not allowed to get to the next rank

Your season/career high is an outlier, unless you're a fairly new player who the system hasn't established a decent ranking for yet. If you've had a busy season, it's pretty secure. If you're setting a new high, as a regular player, then either you've suddenly gotten WAY better for some reason (like, you're a righty and your right arm's been broken for the last two months and just came out of the cast), or your current rank is too high. That's why you're likely to lose at that point. Because you're facing off against players somewhat better than you generally are.

I've said it before, I'll say it again; the ranking system is not a progression system. You aren't meant to climb ranks. You're meant to find your spot and stay there. The only way you should be climbing is if you're making a concerted effort to improve, meaning you're putting in extra time practicing flick shots in training or the like beyond just regular play; you have to be improving not just a little over time, but faster than everyone else is generally improving.

Edit: Don't take any of that as condemnation, either. It's math. It doesn't matter what your current rank is, the same rules apply (though at GM/bronze, you're at the far end of the bell curve so it'll be "swingier" due to less competitors at those ranks)

[Deleted]

improving wont help you win Games when you fill and your fucking other roles dont do shit. or they just throw from the beginning with their picks

comp is cancer

[Freighter]

Your season/career high is an outlier, unless you're a fairly new player who the system hasn't established a decent ranking for yet. If you've had a busy season, it's pretty secure. If you're setting a new high, as a regular player, then either you've suddenly gotten WAY better for some reason (like, you're a righty and your right arm's been broken for the last two months and just came out of the cast), or your current rank is too high. That's why you're likely to lose at that point. Because you're facing off against players somewhat better than you generally are.

I've said it before, I'll say it again; the ranking system is not a progression system. You aren't meant to climb ranks. You're meant to find your spot and stay there. The only way you should be climbing is if you're making a concerted effort to improve, meaning you're putting in extra time practicing flick shots in training or the like beyond just regular play; you have to be improving not just a little over time, but faster than everyone else is generally improving.

Edit: Don't take any of that as condemnation, either. It's math. It doesn't matter what your current rank is, the same rules apply (though at GM/bronze, you're at the far end of the bell curve so it'll be "swingier" due to less competitors at those ranks)

I started out in gold, now I'm almost master. You are definitely meant to be climbing as you get better. If I had stayed at gold despite getting better, something would have been wrong with the system.

[Tziva]

I mean, there's aspects of truth in both. The ranking system isn't a progression system, but a reflection of your MMR in comparison to other players. Consequently, once the system has found the correct SR for you, you should be relatively stable within the system in the short term.

Your rank isn't meant to incrementally increase directly based on time played the way a progression system would. Your rank may incrementally increase over the long term as you improve, but this is a slow process and is only indirectly related to time played. Additionally, you have to consider that the players around you are improving as well, which in some cases may mean that the bar is moving up as you do. If you play infrequently or improve slower than average, the bar may actually move faster than you. You'd have to be improving faster than average to see a noticeable jump in SR. As old players lose interest and new players enter the fold, I imagine long term players will see an increase in rank as a reflect of their skill gains but this should be long term across multiple seasons.

There's also going to be a ceiling on how high you can climb for most people. No matter how much they play, the average person will never hit grandmaster. There is just a cap on how much improvement a person can make before you hit your limits.

[Endus]

I started out in gold, now I'm almost master. You are definitely meant to be climbing as you get better. If I had stayed at gold despite getting better, something would have been wrong with the system.

If you actually do get better, and at a rate faster than the average, that's true. I wasn't saying otherwise. But most people aren't really getting better, or at least not any faster than everyone else. I've climbed too, though I haven't played Comp the last couple seasons (just busy, still enjoy it).

That doesn't change what I meant, though; the ranking system is not meant to be a progression system. You can't grind at it and slowly creep up. Playing 5 matches a day and never getting better should mean you stay at the same point; taking time to practice heavily on basic skills like flick shooting and accuracy, even if that cuts you down to 5 actual matches a week, because you're spending the rest of the time in training, should mean you'll move up in rank faster, even with far fewer matches actually played. Because your skill's improving, and your ratings will reflect that.

If you aren't improving significantly, getting "stuck" at a rating and not being able to get past it is normal, expected behaviour. And it's going to be what most players tend to experience, given the laws of averages.

[Woobels]

I started out in gold, now I'm almost master. You are definitely meant to be climbing as you get better. If I had stayed at gold despite getting better, something would have been wrong with the system.

A looot of players don't really get any better even though they think they do.

[Super Kami Dende]

Tried placements. Me and 5 other randoms get put against a team of 6 People in a party all Gold Ranked.

Blizzard queue system is shit.

[Eapoe]

Another game of someone picking Moira and using her as straight damage. Watch the kill feed and see a damage orb and purple beam going onto an enemy and yellow piss spray come out after I'm dead.
Honestly, if people are going to play damage, then pick a damage hero, don't pick a support role and then not support your team with them.

[NightZero88]

Another game of someone picking Moira and using her as straight damage. Watch the kill feed and see a damage orb and purple beam going onto an enemy and yellow piss spray come out after I'm dead.
Honestly, if people are going to play damage, then pick a damage hero, don't pick a support role and then not support your team with them.

Was the Moira solo-healing or was there another healer? If I'm with another healer I focus more on DPS as Moira but I typically end games with 5 golds as her, even with another healer.

[Eapoe]

Was the Moira solo-healing or was there another healer? If I'm with another healer I focus more on DPS as Moira but I typically end games with 5 golds as her, even with another healer.

2 support, but the other support was Ana, who also focused damage into a Pharah.
I don't mind Moira players that want to damage, but they need to know when to support. I play Moira a lot, and when I can damage the enemy I take full advantage of it, but when my team is taking heavy damage I know to stop that and go as support to keep them alive.

[DeadmanWalking]

Was the Moira solo-healing or was there another healer? If I'm with another healer I focus more on DPS as Moira but I typically end games with 5 golds as her, even with another healer.

Dont judge your play by medals, judge it by winning. Medals don't mean shit if you don't win. You just managed to do better than other people in those medal selections but if your team is shit then you are only beating shit and that is nothing to brag about especially on a character not designed to get those medals.

Having gold medals may make you personally feel better about yourself when you lose but they play no role what so ever in accumulating rank, only winning does.

If Moira's spend at least 75% of their time healing then their win ratio will spike up much higher than a dps moira. I use to play DPS moira's when she was new so I tested the healing/damage play and found that we won more games with me healing as moira than dpsing with moira if all of my orbs were yellow and 75% of my time was spent healing.

I'd rather win games than pedal gold medals as a redeeming quality. You can have 5 medals and still lose and if someone blames you for not healing when you should of been healing they would be right.

The worst Moira's are the flanking Moira's who try to run solo on the sides rather than being in a position behind thier own front line healing and dpsing. These Moira's are so pathetic that I just ignore them during the game because they have no impact on the game what so ever, especially if there is a d.va who gobbles purple orbs like Pac Man.

[Endus]

Tried placements. Me and 5 other randoms get put against a team of 6 People in a party all Gold Ranked.

Blizzard queue system is shit.

Placements aren't part of the normal queue system, in the first place. There's so many fewer people doing placements, especially after the first week or two of a season, that they're more interested in getting you into any match than finding an appropriate match.

Win/loss in placements also doesn't really matter; it's individual performance.

[Super Kami Dende]

Placements aren't part of the normal queue system, in the first place. There's so many fewer people doing placements, especially after the first week or two of a season, that they're more interested in getting you into any match than finding an appropriate match.

Win/loss in placements also doesn't really matter; it's individual performance.

I'm sure there would be plenty of Bronze players around. Or at least not a 6 stack team vs 6 people doing placements. Once my team saw it was a 6 stack of gold they basically just chose random champs and jumped around the spawn point waiting to lose.

[Jessicka]

Actually had a couple of good games on Widow today where people didn't throw and let me get on with my thing and we won comfortably. I had started out just tanking because that was previously working but again, same old Moiras who can't use a yellow orb, Anas too busy sniping, and everyone else wanting to be the DPS carry. One match, had a decent Soldier for round 1, goes McCree round 2 and does fuck all, ask him to switch and he's all 'I'm all golds', it's like 'yeah from last round on 76 why the fuck you switch?' Next match, another McCree player, goes Widow for attack on A, they're running 3 Tanks, he can't do shit and kicks off at Pharah for not doing shit because of the barriers; I'm like 'you're McCree you're doing even less'...

Always fucking McCrees at this level think they're fucking Pine and think they get a free pass on being questioned because McCree isn't Widow or Hanzo.

[Gandrake]

man i love when people try to step to me w/ their bullshit

E: how many kills u get?
M: 35
E: hah i got 40 w 10k damage

well ok bitch i got 35 with 6k damage.... so why dont u see yourself back to your dumpster fire over there with the 4k damage it takes for you to get 5 more kills? lmao i mean fuck how are you diamond, how the fuck were you ever in masters? literal garbage. you getting dicked on by someone who's been in bronze for 6 seasons, can't get their main acc out of silver and highest rank they have ever been is Platinum

try n step bitch, ill put u back down in ur seat