Man'ari Eredar as Horde Allied Race

[Thorqin]

With the light being set up as the next big villain, the Man'ari Eredar could play a great role and lead to some awesome lore for the Horde. Their storyline could involve a new leader emerging (Kil'jaden's son/daughter?) and leading them towards a life free of the fel, something the Orcs (Fel), Blood Elves (Mana Addiction), Nightborne (Nightwell) and Forsaken (Lich King) could relate to. It could involve a group of Man'ari that were against following the Legion, but had no out, and now that the Legion is defeated those individuals need allies.

They would be rejected by Velen, and hunted by the Lightforged as heretics, and would turn to the Horde for help in the face of extinction. Blizzard can use them to introduce new methods and powers to defeat the light from the Horde side, while the Void is used by the alliance side. It would add even more intrigue in the Horde, as the Orcs and Mag'har would be initially against it, while the Tauren and Nightborne and would want to give them a chance at redemption.

[Raetary]

we don't need 10 different versions of existing races.
draenei and LF are enough.

[Fyersing]

It seems entirely more likely that they'd attach themselves to the Alliance.

You can't really expect folks to believe that the Lightforged Draenei are alright with Void Elves, Void-riddled Krokul, and Fel-touched Krokul, but they wouldn't be alright with Fel-slinging Eredar?

[Deleted]

Man'ari Eredar without Fel aren't Man'ari Eredar. So they would lose the look you show in the two pictures. What is the point for this kind of story? And why even implement them if you want to turn them into normal Eredar aka Draenei.

Aside from that, Man'ari Eredar would only work with a group of Man'ari Eredar who were imprisoned by Sargeras, because they would not follow him.

I at least don't need another Redemption Story, where Blizzard turns another race into idiotic worshippers of the Light. They already had their chance for a race which could master the Fel without being totally corrupted and chaotic evil, turning into servants of the Burning Legion. The Blood Elves. And they screwed that story over big time and turned them into Light Elf/Humans with pointy ears.

So no. As long as we have the so called Thrall Horde, a group of Man'ari Eredar would never fit.

[Deleted]

Be honest. You just want /waggle on the Horde.
Admit it! :P

But to be serious, they could easily make them a faction of Man'ari that are actually followers of Velen who he left behind. But unlike the Krokul Broken, they crumbled and pledged to Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde. Now that they are dead, they want to free and forge a new future for themselves. They would hate Velen and his Draenei with a burning passion because they'd believe that Velen cursed them to this fate.

And Sylvannas would not let the chance to recruit powerful demon people into her Horde slip by.

[Gothic Knight]

Horde wants to steal more Alliance races? Why i'm not surprised?

On topic if anything Man'ari will be more logical on Alliance side due to Velen's love to forgiveness.

[Niaraa]

as demon i can't really see them in horde or alliance. or the horde or the alliance accepting them

[The King in Yellow]

Horde wants to steal more Alliance races? Why i'm not surprised?

On topic if anything Man'ari will be more logical on Alliance side due to Velen's love to forgiveness.

We do?

Space goats belong to the Alliance, not the Horde.

Not to mention neither faction would accept demons into it...

[Zeph76]

As if the Horde wasn't full of edgelords already. Also no Orc would ever EVER accept them as allies.

[Gothic Knight]

We do?

Space goats belong to the Alliance, not the Horde.

Not to mention neither faction would accept demons into it...

OP advocating for Man'ari (Eredar > Draenei) to join Horde.

And about accepting - Horde accepted ex Scourge, Alliance accepted ex Natrezim and both factions accepted ex Lich King's personal bodyguards.

I not talking about Void Elves and Worgen.

[DarkWynn]

Well, there are a few things that could make this work. For one, we know that fel was intended as a counter to void energies, so an expansion focused on the Old Gods or the Shadowlands could give an excuse for fel-utilizing races to join player factions. Leftovers from the Legion that legitimately believed in that part of their mission may see allying with us as a way to continue their fight, while others could use the faction they join to get revenge on the other side.
Also, the Mag’har recruitment scenario opens up a fight against the Light as a possible story option, so demons would be interested there as well. If Man’ari Eredar wished to join the Horde, could they oppose Lightbound orcs to balance the factions? It wouldn’t be the first time weve seen such a flip, since Void Elves and Nightboirne are basically faction-flipped High Elves and Night Elves.
Finally, the notion of orcs rejecting them would be a bit hypocritical, no? Orcs once drank demon blood for power and served as a Legion precursor force. If the Eredar claimed to seek a similar redemption, then it could maybe work... Maybe.

[Sangris]

Let's stop giving character models to the opposite faction. Giving Horde draenei models would mean that the Alliance would get something from the Horde (like these dumb lightforged undead). It was already a mistake doing that with Night/Blood Elves. The factions being recolored versions of each other makes them redundant anyway.

[Thage]

The Light isn't being set up as a villain, it's being blackwashed to put it and the Void on an even moral keel (with the void elves helping to whitewash the Void to an extent). Death (or more specifically, undeath) is being painted out as the next big cosmic bad guy, given its opposition not only to the Light's focus on life and order, but the Void also considers it an enemy that must be ruthlessly purged as seen with the whispers urging Alleria to kill Sylvanas, claiming she serves the 'true' enemy.

[Mehrunes]

Cured from Fel? No. What's the point in that case. But the red/grey skinned Eredar are swell. Throw some Doommaided as the racial leader.

Alliance can have Gilgoblins in exchange.

[Thage]

As if the Horde wasn't full of edgelords already. Also no Orc would ever EVER accept them as allies.

If an existing race calling foul would be enough to keep an allied race from joining a faction, the Zandalari (with their long history of allying with the Mogu/their recent attacks on Pandaria, and their long-standing enmity with the Darkspears) wouldn't be candidates with both the trolls and pandaren calling foul. And the orcs haven't really been in a position of power in the Horde since Garrosh's fall, since then they've been on even keel with the other Horde races.

Not that I'm down with playable eredar (I really don't jive with chaotic evil PC races), just saying that there's already precedent for something like this.

[Unholyground]

They should do away with faction limitations for PVE by now anyways, not allowing us to group for PvE content cross faction actually hurts the game in the long run and reduces the number of people you can group with essentially limiting the player bases.

[Kyphael]

If Lightforged weren't a thing, MAYBE, but I don't see three kinds of Draenei running around.

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They should do away with faction limitations for PVE by now anyways, not allowing us to group for PvE content cross faction actually hurts the game in the long run and reduces the number of people you can group with essentially limiting the player bases.

This too pretty much.

[Eazy]

No thanks. That's a bad idea.

[Dalheim]

Be honest. You just want /waggle on the Horde.
Admit it! :P

Noooo... Maybe.

Just a little.

[Malikath]

We do?

Space goats belong to the Alliance, not the Horde.

Not to mention neither faction would accept demons into it...

*opens time portal to look at varimathras circa burning crusade*

ooook.
but yeah we already got 4 kinds of playble elves now, lets get some NEW races rather then cheap reskins.