- Christopher HitchensPopulists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
We have cultural freedom in the USA so yeah each group can just do whatever they want in their own little areas. It's not optimal for an integrated society but it's also not the end of the world.
We all share the same military and maybe if China becomes a bigger threat to us then all Americans will have to come together under civic nationalism. But maybe that won't be necessary and there won't be any major foreign threats.
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So, you want to go back to the 1800's, when people were publicly shamed for having sex outside of marriage, and women were treated as property, and were not given the freedom to even vote? (
Shall we bring up the sodomy laws, and other propriety laws that also existed?
Or, when gay people were shunned so badly, almost all of them were in a closet?
That's the problem with that brand of conservatism, is that the thing that they wanted, was truly fucking terrible.
@Machismo If you look closely I never once gave my opinion on the voting box issue, the reason being is b/c I had no knowledge about it which is why I asked, and before I could even give one you just started attacking me for shit I never said.
As for the original point you are right by taking away voting boxes they are making it take more effort to vote, so you are right on that point.
Maybe next time before going full bore on your preconceived bullshit you let someone answer the question first then reply.
@downnola I can understand that perspective. I would just say wait a min and let a person answer before judging them. I was so busy responding to Machismo's attacks I was unable to answer the question.
Shunning is democratic. If you live in a democracy, you have to submit to the will of the majority. And how is it any different from the modern cancel culture? The only thing that has changed is who it's aimed at.
Sodomy laws are 500 iq pepega government regulation. In a true conservative society, government regulation would be kept to a minimum and people would mind their own business.
They made actual fucking laws against it...
So, you want to go back to a time where they cared so much about the sexual activities of others, that they had many laws against them.
You said you wanted to go back to when they didn't care, but as you can see, you want to go back to the time where they literally fucking banned it.
Well, this just got awkward for you.
"I want to go back to when this shit was straight-up illegal, instead of just being whispered about."
That's a pretty sweet self-own on your part.
@Machismo
I literally just agreed with you in my last post.
I will ask again WTH is wrong with you that you attack someone that is agreeing with you?
Also how is posting what I know about mail in voting building a strawman, when I am also asking for more information?
Hmf... You guys are arguing against a right-wing mouthpiece...for being right-wing.
If you are talking about me you can take a long walk off a short pier.
Try reading before commenting.
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Outside of your jumping to conclusions and attacking me, it was nice talking to you and learning more about mail in voting, as I stated before I didn't know much about it and you helped me clear that up.
In the future please don't just assume stuff about me and let me finish, then if you disagree with me go full bore, I have no problem with that. Just let me state my position first is all.
Having a law against a certain sex act vs. having parades promoting the said sex act, having laws protecting the said sex act from hate speech, having a subculture revolving entirely around the said sex act not to mention having billions of people regularly discussing the said sex act, making videos of the said sex act and promoting the said sex act as woke.
Tell me again which society cares more about peoples' private sexual affairs.
You literally just jumped to conclusions...
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The one trying to forcefully ban sex acts and sexual preferences.
It's not even fucking close.
You want to go back to a time where they cares so much about the sex lives of others, that they fucking banned it. So, congratulation on arguing against yourself, and losing.
This is the problem with social conservatives, it flies in the face of freedom they claim to support.
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