Jailer opens vault thing and reveals nothing. Turns out the others were right the sigil are just keys to those realms
Jailer freaks out runs away Sylvanas calls him a coward Drust invade hardcore. Jailer and Sylvanas MIA focus on Drust and restoring zones while securing Maw and saving souls. Twist is Life has been playing us all reveals those that die in afterlife reincarnate as new souls. Thanks for the power boost and weakening Death.
Retail sucks. Classic sucks. No positivity, only negative feedback. Why is everybody so damn miserable? Must be somebody else's fault, it couldn't possibly be my INSANELY TOXIC ATTITUDE.
I'd love to be wrong and find out there's a treasure trove of characterization just waiting out there, but considering the only time the guy got any lines that weren't generic threats was in a side story in a book I don't see it. Point me to his characterization and I'd be glad to amend my ways.
@ilgynoth
The passive-aggressive tug of war between Kosak, Afrasiabi and Danuser has been hilarious. Afrasiabi took a great lead against Kosak for Kosak doing Mists 1.0 by remaking a more terrible version of that expansion with Sylvanas as the sacrificial lamb after Kosak dicked Garrosh. Now Danuser paid Afrasiabi back by turning Afrasiabi's multi-million dollar five cinematic hero Sadfang into a trinket and having no one else mention him.
@Mehrunes
Oh, she's definitely helping Anduin recover, that's a given, I just think that'll be left for the post-raid chapter of the story. You know, that surreal cutscene where her and Anduin mutely regard a placeholder box.
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Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...S-dying-in-9-1 this you? get lost lmao
It was hilarious until they screwed up the Character you loved the most. Too bad it went really bad for Afrasiabi, haha. Lost his Job thanks to his stupidness
And the Saurfang part is really nice. I hope that stays so. Fucking hate that worthless little Sadbitch and his annoying "So Saaaaaaad" Cinematics
Sylvanas will kill us(heroes) and the WoW will end.
But for real:
Jailer wins, Sylvanas will have redemption because Nathanos will decide to save her somehow and sacrifice himself for his waifu.
What would a good character be? i mean every character in any fanatasy ever is "big guy wants to destroy world and you beat him" i mean what changes would you make? And anytime blizzard tries to go against the grain like bfa it leaves people confused
also on topic the jailer will definitely take the arbirters sigil and become this
Are you implying the sigils are just empty MacGuffins? Listen here, you presumptuous misogynist pigburglar; Sylvanas fucking Windrunner is the most based and feminist (as portrayed by being a passive lackey whose development has been wholly influenced by two male influences) character in World of Warcraft(tm) Shadowlands(tm) and you ought to learn how to accept this.
Now, we here at Blizzard Entertainment are very deeply concerned about ensuring a based and developed story for our cash cows to fixate upon. We are deeply disturbed, disgusted, insulted, and other such emotionally-charged yet empty linguistic terms about your daring to imply that our super-cool OC Zovaal (donut steel) may be lacking in personality. Your mistake, of course, is failing to realize that design is a sufficient alternative to character development and personality traits. Now, shut up and enjoy the Nathanos, Sylvanas, Arthas, Hitler, Godwin, Nomi and Hogger redemption scene, which we will render in our terrible gameplay engine instead of the beautiful actual cinematics which are the high points of even the worst expansions.
The Jailer reveals he is Papa Smurf and he will travel to defeat Gargamel and the Life Pantheon.
Honestly, I’d say it would even suffice to make him more cruel and petty—those are personality traits, after all—because it would give more depth to the character and explain his behavior.
Uhm achktually sweaty, it’s because people are confused by the depth and profundity of this immortal war story told in World of Warcraft(tm) Battle(tm) for(tm) Azeroth(tm), the best(tm) expansion we have made until Shadowlands(tm) and the invention of our greatest and most morally-complex villain, Zovaal.
My money is on:
Jailer throws Sylvanas aside and our boy Nathanos show up to save her.
Big reveal related to Arthas working for the Jailer.
sylvanas will stick with thanos until he has all 4 keys and then she will betray him and take the infinity gauntlet for her self and snap her fingers and become the good guy again,. just wait and see
Haha.
It certainly would be an improvement over the nothing we have but I wouldn't say it'd suffice considering those personality traits have been what they've used for most of their villains e.g. the Legion, Deathwing and the Black Dragonflight, the Lich King and much of the Scourge. It can be entertaining (Gul'dan) but it's long been played out. At the very least they need to put some pizzazz over the cruelty and pettiness.
I’d say the nature of Zovaal as a qualified tormentor would make him an excellent venue to allow for a more personal kind of villainy. A lot of times, the aforementioned villains tend to be as overbearing and widespread as the villains we got—it would be interesting to see a villain who will sometimes delay himself to indulge his cruelties or in the interest of some moral system. Either would be useful imo
sooo, you agree with what has been said? that hell get a nicer design (because he looks like absolute crap rn), but will remain the same, boring, sad sargeras+LK rip-off otherwise (nevermind that this design looks again like an aman'thul+LK rip-off)?
great! glad that is sorted now
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The crooked shitposter with no eyes is watching from the endless thread.
From the space that is everywhere and nowhere, the crooked shitposter feasts on memes.
He has no eyes to see, but he dreams of infinite memeing and trolling.
Indeed! I mean, that's literally the entire shtick he's knocking off. Why not just go all the way?
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Honestly, the only hope for Zovaal is if we do get a real extension of his personality really quickly. They were almost laying the groundwork in some places, like the Folk and Fairy Tales story, but I don't think they'll have enough time to make the Jailer be nearly as memorable as Arthas or Sargy. He simply doesn't have enough buildup, enough personality, and he's already been outshined by Denathrius in his own expansion. Even in consideration of the fact that he was just introduced, he never made a strong enough introduction--and, of course, first impressions tend to stick.