Originally Posted by
Kagthul
From current info - AMD's launch presentation benchmarks and Benchmarks of final Engineering Samples logged in of Raptor Lake/13th Gen, they are looking to be extremly close to one another in performance as far as gaming goes. Like.. within 5% of less. Now, if AMD fibbed or massaged their benchmarks in the presentation, they may be a bit behind, but my feeling is that we're looking at the two companies basically trading blows.
Where Intel will likely pull ahead will be heavily multithreaded (which will affect video editing) because they are going higher core count. The 13900K is going to be a 24 core Processor with 32 threads. - 8 Performance Cores (with Hyperthreading) that hit 5.8Ghz out of the box and a whopping 16 Efficiency cores (which hit the mid-3Ghz range, and each one performs like a Skylake-derived core).
As an example of how effective the E-cores really are, the current gen 12900K which is 8 P-cores and 8 E-cores (24 total threads), handily beats the 16-core, 32-thread 5950X in multithreaded workflows by 10-15% or more. Given that with current info, Ryzen 7000 and Raptor Lake appear to be similar in performance per core, the 13900K will probably have an even larger advantage over the 7950X because of 8 additional E-cores over the 12900K. But for gaming, it wont really matter (no game needs that many cores). And thats assuming you head straight to the top end. Since you want to make this your job, there is some merit to getting the top end SKU of whichever. you go with, as more cores/power = less time doing renders. If you were just doing this as a hobby or side thing, i'd say you could easily get away with a 13700K or 7700X, because a little extra render time isnt that big a deal when money isn't on the line.
Quite honestly, though it would definitely cost more, in your shoes, i'd seriously consider building two rigs - one to stream/do video work and one purely for gaming. The gaming rig could easily be much "lower" powered - there's not going to be any real difference between an overclocked 13600K (or 7600X) and a 13900K/7950X as far as actual gaming performance. My wife does it this way (though shes just a hobbyist) - she duplicates the video out to her M1 Mac Mini and does all the streaming & recording (and editing, afterwards, if needed) from the Mac. That method also completely avoids there EVER being any chance of your streaming/recording possibly affecting your game performance. If your budget wont stretch, then one rig with the best CPU you can get (from either manufacturer) is definitely the next best bet.
AMD will be out a little sooner (street date on Ryzen 7000 is the 27th of this month). Intel is planning on their official announcement on the same day (yeah, thats definitely NOT a coincidence), and street date is tipped for the second week of October.
Given that most of the SKUs from both company appear to be simply slotting into existing price points of the things they are replacing, your ~2500$ budget should be enough even with Ryzen 7000/Raptor Lake to land you a top-end CPU and beefy GPU.
You might seriously consider ordering a 3090Ti right now - they are showing up at ~1000$ (from a 2500$ MSRP) as places try to fire-sale them ahead of the 4000-series launch. And while, yeah, a putative 4080 or 4080Ti might be more powerful than the 3090Ti (and the 4090/Ti definitely will be) they wont be available at launch (theyll sell out, even without scalpers) and you're likely not going to be able to land one for months.... and its not like the 3090Ti is suddenly going to become bad because its a smidge under the new top end cards.
Here's an example build - just imagine "13900K" instead of 12900K (going to be the same price, pretty much) and Z790 instead of Z690 (though, since Z690 will support Raptor Lake, you might be able to score a good Z690 board for cheaper after the launch that will perform pretty much identically). Everything else should be roughly the same. Im going to go with DDR5 here, to make the comparison between Ryzen 7000 and Raptor Lake fair (you MUST use DDR5 with Ryzen 7000, while Raptor Lake will still support DDR4). For the Ryzen build, again, just imagine "Ryzen 7000" instead of 5000, etc. Prices should be the same or very similar.
Intel Build (again, imagine next-gen CPU - but you may want to go ahead and get this MoBo, as it is what puts the budget over and it has absolutely bonkers amounts of fast I/O, which is why i went with it.) There are a ton of very good boards with less I/O down in the 200-250$ range, if you need to stay below 2500$ no matter what.
Ryzen Build - again, imagine Ryzen 7000 (and, perforce, a new motherboard, as it will NOT socket into AM4 boards - early pricing leaks seem to point to new AM5 boards being a fair bit pricier than their AM4 equivalents, so the MoBo might be +100$ or more).
The AMD build MAY be another 100-150$ more depending on if the early leaks about X670 boards being pricier than X570 are true. (Edit: Seems to be true:
For both builds you're going to want to put in more mass storage (which you may already have) to record video to and edit from.
The case is a good, no-frills, easy-to-work but still not ugly case. YMMV. Comes with 3 intake fans (which are from Phanteks and are pretty decent) so you wont have to buy a ton of extra fans.
You can also swap the Noctua cooler for a 360mm AIO if you want for not a ton more (another ~40ish $). Itll cool *marginally* better than the big ass Noctua.. but it wont be night and day and the Noctua can keep either CPU well within temp limits.
Again, those are just rough examples given that the prices of incoming parts are likely to be the same or just marginally more expensive than the ones they are replacing.