Enhancement Dps In this gearset on saurfang hc

[paror]

Helly everyone,

I recently gatherd some gear for my 3e spec (enhancement), I made a profile about how I should gem/enchant
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=21633565
The expertise could be moved around a bit as I am considering going orc (troll atm)

Currently in my elemental gear I can get up to 15,7k dps on normal(tunneling 20yard range)
Hc dps is around 13/14k because of the bloodbeasts(knocking/rooting when needed)

The question is, how much dps do you reckon I will pull on saurfang hc25 in that enhancement set and/or do I need to change things in that set?

Greetz inktie

P.s Love the cata changes to ele's! and forgive me for any typo's I am not english.
P.s2 I know there are no absolute values and it's also rng to a point.

[Rake]

Nowhere close to you elemental dps.

[Kaynot]

The question is, how much dps do you reckon I will pull on saurfang hc25 in that enhancement set and/or do I need to change things in that set?

cool story bro, but bigger question is : have you ever played melee dps,particularly enhancer at all?
Next thing which has huge impact on your damage is raid line up,is it melee friendly/optimal?

If you are good at enhance dps,and raid line-up is optimal its managable to hit approx. 15k DPS,with ToT possibly more

P.S. dont waste your cash on racial change,because no one knows for sure which race is going to be best for enhancers,after 4.0 release

Edit: try to run Rawr or EnhSim to see more certain dps numbers

[Deleted]

It may depend on rDPS a lot.
If you manage to do DPS without problem id say it would vary about this.
up to 2 minutes 14'5k~~ dps
2-3 minutes 12'5k~~ dps
3-3:45 minutes 13'5k~~ dps
Also depend on matching CDs and BL/Hero, and if you are able to pull that much.

Btw, i think that profile is not taking on account 5 expertise from fist weapons, since im gemming 3X34 gems and capping it, and i see you gem 3x20 + 84 on trinket, something must be wrong.

[heartlarva]

I am in full 277 gear. Gear capped for what we can kill. (No LK25 or Halion 25 hm kills yet) and I pulled 15.7k last week and 15.6k last night. No ToT, FM, etc...

[dgmmidge]

I manage about 12.5k on hc but im in mainly 264 gear apart from 271 LK weapon and 277 offhand

[paror]

cool story bro, but bigger question is : have you ever played melee dps,particularly enhancer at all?
Next thing which has huge impact on your damage is raid line up,is it melee friendly/optimal?

If you are good at enhance dps,and raid line-up is optimal its managable to hit approx. 15k DPS,with ToT possibly more

P.S. dont waste your cash on racial change,because no one knows for sure which race is going to be best for enhancers,after 4.0 release

Edit: try to run Rawr or EnhSim to see more certain dps numbers

I know how to dps, that is not an issue raidsetup is 25 man so all buffs are there and racial change wouldnt be for racial it would be for cosmetics, as I like new stuff

anyway everyone ty for the answers I am going to try out enhance soon in a real raid

[Pope]

Minor note:
I would recommend you to not socket AP at all. If you want to socket, choose pure Haste, Hit, Expertise and Expertise/Hit. But no AP/haste sockets. It's like dancing on two marriages. (German proverb.. does this exist in english? )

[Fornaw]

Minor note:
I would recommend you to not socket AP at all. If you want to socket, choose pure Haste, Hit, Expertise and Expertise/Hit. But no AP/haste sockets. It's like dancing on two marriages. (German proverb.. does this exist in english? )

AP/Haste is going to be your best gem for a red socket if you are expertise capped and still have red sockets left over (which is rather rare in ICC gear, but doable as an orc)
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OT: That proverb doesn't exist in English exactly, there's a couple similar ones I've heard. For example "The man who tries to catch two rabbits (at the same time) catches neither"

[Pope]

AP/Haste is going to be your best gem for a red socket if you are expertise capped and still have red sockets left over (which is rather rare in ICC gear, but doable as an orc)
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OT: That proverb doesn't exist in English exactly, there's a couple similar ones I've heard. For example "The man who tries to catch two rabbits (at the same time) catches neither"

the more you know

I know that AP/haste are the best choice IF expertise capped, but he still can change his 20 expertise gems to 10/10 gems, without socketing AP. I can't find the EJ thread (I hate this forum) where they stated that socketing AP and haste is always worse than socketing pure AP or pure haste.

[Languster]

OT: That proverb doesn't exist in English exactly, there's a couple similar ones I've heard. For example "The man who tries to catch two rabbits (at the same time) catches neither"

Really OT: I've always preferred Aliester Crowley's version: "The hunter who chases two rabbits misses them both. If you must fail, fail splendidly; hunt two tigers."

Somewhat less OT: whenever I sim my char, AP always comes out a little ahead of haste, so I've gone with gemming it quite a lot. Now, my gear is a lot worse than what you have (avg itmlvl 258, with two 251 weapons), yet I usually hit 11k on Saurfang normal and a fraction less on hc. Which makes me qurious - do we really scale that badly with better gear?

[Deleted]

Really OT: I've always preferred Aliester Crowley's version: "The hunter who chases two rabbits misses them both. If you must fail, fail splendidly; hunt two tigers."

Somewhat less OT: whenever I sim my char, AP always comes out a little ahead of haste, so I've gone with gemming it quite a lot. Now, my gear is a lot worse than what you have (avg itmlvl 258, with two 251 weapons), yet I usually hit 11k on Saurfang normal and a fraction less on hc. Which makes me qurious - do we really scale that badly with better gear?

Im at full 277 but for 3 parts of tier (264) and 264 belt. I manage to do between 15'5 and 17k dps on heroic. RNG still is RNG, but we dont scale THAT badly.

About AP/Haste dilemma. Values of haste and AP fluctuate with different haste values, despite being higher or lower there are break points (Thats why simming it says you to gem AP), gemming expertise/hit in red sockets means you dont have to lose other sockets gemming 20 hit gems if missing hit, which eventually will happen upon reaching BIS gear because crit cap (and atm im failing at this, just too lazy to change gems).