LFD and LFR are hurting WoW gameplay.

[Kazmodius]

Hi, so just making this thread because I'm feeling concerned about how easy WoW is getting and how we can get geared so quickly nowaday. Also do you think it is what prevent players from going outside cities? So i'd like to know your opinion about if Blizzard should or shouldn't remove them.

No hating comments please I just want players opinion.

If you want my opinion, personally I hate those features, I've used them so much I know what I'm talking about. And I can only see how WoW is getting boring because everything is going so fast because of LFD and LFR.

So Yes I think LFD should be removed for level caped players and Yes I think removing completely LFR will be a benefit.

Thanks.

[Evil Inside]

Its too late now to remove LFD, they're trying to get us out of the cities by removing mass summon, that will work for raids at least.

[Blackmist]

Disagree.

Not everyone is in a guild. Random groups are part of the game for many people now. It's something you can avoid, like PvP. Just run your raids and dungeons as a guild group.

Plus, being jealous of LFR gear is like being jealous of dole money...

[Venziir]

No they aren't. Moving on.

[Deleted]

LFD is possibly one of the best things to have happened to wow.
Gone are the days of spending hours looking for a tank, or a healer on a low pop realm.
However it is also one of the worst as there is no accountability for asshats, but hey ignore them you never see them again.
Personally I think over all LFD is not only welcomed by a large portion of the community, but if it was removed then the uproar would be insane.
So where does that leave the people who hate it ? You can not use it, you can find your own groups, No one is stopping you doing this.

LFR is also a double edged sword. I really like it as it means I can simply jump into a raid on a character without all the hassle of setting one up, leading it, and suffering loot distribution hassles (I do enough of this for guild raids) Yes there is idiots in there, best thing I have found to do is just ignore raid chat totally.
again, if you dont like it, no one is forcing you to do it/

As for people gearing up too fast, where is the issue with this ? I can assure you with 100% certainty that the current sped that people gear up options is vastly superior to the way it was in vanilla. Better Geared people mean more people doing end game content, meaning faster groups, and a bigger pool to recruit people from.

The long and the short of it is, no one is forcing you into LFR, LFD, or Using various options to gear up, These are your choices to use them or not.
But belive me when I say, it is (the system, not so much the content) much much better now than what it has been in the past.

[Kazmodius]

Yeah I know for someone that is playing about 5 hours a week can get LFR gear I know its bullshit but Idk what would actually fix the boringness. Don't you find weird that a level 85 can do LFR the same night he dinged?

[Deleted]

I can see close to no reason to why LFD and LFR are hurting wow gameplay because if you don't wanna use it, don't. If you do wanna use it, do.

[Unholyground]

Yeah I know for someone that is playing about 5 hours a week can get LFR gear I know its bullshit but Idk what would actually fix the boringness. Don't you find weird that a level 85 can do LFR the same night he dinged?

They are toning that down in MoP by making the gear acquired by justice weaker than in previous expansions, also there will be a new dungeon set similar to the BC ones that will be more beneficial to starting raids. Also you wont be able to get any tiers outside of raids so the older raids (aside from the addition of new dungeons to help gear out a bit faster) will still be relevant.

[Kazmodius]

@ Siggma I can't say its not true but As I said I get bored of a patch after 2 weeks of its release that shitty... and imma casual player. There must be something somewhere that is going wrong?!?!

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@Unholyground Really happy to hear about it we'll see in MoP then!

[frogger237]

If anything LFD has gotten more people out of the cities as they can do what they want without having to shout in org for 12 hrs looking for a group for Ubrs.

[Necronium]

Not trying to throw hate at you or something, but... you want the game to be slower? I don't see how that would help.

However, I would love to have another way to earn gold and rewards out in the world and not in dungeons and raids. Everything nowadays is instanced.

Something that would be cool also would be if there were Lore progression in Pvp. Would probably be difficult to figure out, and in the end you would end up with two endings every map, one where Horde wins and one where Alliance wins.

[Deja Thoris]

LFD and lfr are enabling wow gameplay.

Don't you think you are a complete hypocrite to use the tools extensively then say how they ruin the game? Was spamming trade for hours to get a tank fun social interaction in the old days?

[vesseblah]

If you want my opinion, personally I hate those features, I've used them so much I know what I'm talking about. And I can only see how WoW is getting boring because everything is going so fast because of LFD and LFR.

You really want the 2-3 hour sessions of spamming tard channel with "2 dps lf tank+healer+cc for daily hero" back? Either you've never seen the game before LFD, or you're just making noise out of fad topic that's been beaten to death 4576295863258325 times already.

There must be something somewhere that is going wrong?!?!

There most definitely is. Don't try to fix things that aren't broken.

[Mongoose19]

I love all the bullshit "I spent 10 hours looking for people before LFD" bullshit. Max like 20 minutes, you people overreact like bunch of kiddies.

[Xuany]

LFR was intended to help people see the content and regular/hardcore raiders to do something in their spare time and acquire missing gear to help progress. Nothing would have changed if LFR wasn't in place just a lot more people would stop playing because they can't commit to a guild raid schedule. LFD was for complete convenience.

Trying to complete the daily heroic back before LFD was rather annoying. If you were in a guild you completed it with guildies if you didn't you found pugs and if that pug fell apart you're locked to a heroic and can't finish your heroic daily. The dungeons get easier throughout the expansion the LFD system didn't make them easy it just happens.

LFR was intended to be easy mode if you want a challenge join a guild and progress through Regular/Heroic raids, removing LFR isn't going to make the game harder.

I love all the bullshit "I spent 10 hours looking for people before LFD" bullshit. Max like 20 minutes, you people overreact like bunch of kiddies.

That depends on server population and faction population. I bet alliance players on some servers spent hours finding groups.

[vesseblah]

I love all the bullshit "I spent 10 hours looking for people before LFD" bullshit. Max like 20 minutes, you people overreact like bunch of kiddies.

And here's another example of somebody who never seen the game before LFD.

Unless you were a tank or healer, the instance queues* were easily 3-4 hours during vanilla and 2-3 hours in TBC in medium pop realm.


*spamming trade and lfg channels

[Resentful]

Closing LFD and LFR will hurt the game more is all I will say to you OP.

[Aoyi]

I've played quite a few mmos that didn't have this feature and let me just tell you how much that sucked. Nothing like logging in for a night to play a game just to be forced to sit in town for 2.5 hours waiting for a full party. Some games really rely on having the right setup and if you just can't find an available player to fit that role, your out of luck. Lfd and lfr are both underated by the WoW community. You don't learn to appreciate them until they aren't there.

[Necronium]

And here's another example of somebody who never seen the game before LFD.

Unless you were a tank or healer, the instance queues* were easily 3-4 hours during vanilla and 2-3 hours in TBC.


*spamming trade and lfg channels

This ^

I still remember waiting for 2 hours to get into Blackrock Depths, and another 3 hours finishing it.

[Seriss]

And here's another example of somebody who never seen the game before LFD.

Unless you were a tank or healer, the instance queues* were easily 3-4 hours during vanilla and 2-3 hours in TBC in medium pop realm.


*spamming trade and lfg channels

Oh why did you have to make me remember those long 8 hours of looking for a tank who'd be willing to tank those dreaded Mana Tombs heroic for me so I would get my pretty blue shoulders...

They NEVER dropped, btw. NEVER!