[Disc] Help me stop being shi* - Logs, Armoury & UI inside

[Aemi]

Amoury: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...i%C3%A9/simple (Elsié EU-Shadowsong)

Logs : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t38nJGhBg9DHCvP1

UI : http://scottyzlyr.imgur.com/all/ (Link to album showing now my WA are set up also)

Elv UI & Clique for healing.

Hello fellow Priests,

Having recently re-rolled priest at the back end of MoP and spending all that time working on Holy and my Auras, the inconsiderate Disc Priest in my guild decided to quit, which left a void I was asked to fill. Being a lovely human being... I accepted, then realising I am a HORRIBLE Disc Priest.

So, I throw myself at your merci.. please help out this noob.

I have been reading Howtopriest.com and various posts across this friendly forum, but I still feel like my ability to pick the spells I should be casting on who, what and when are poor.

I am open to criticism, no matter how harsh.. so please point out any issues you can see. The logs I have linked show 6/7 heroic and some horrific attempts on Kargath Mythic from my point of view. I felt seriously crippled and I sucked at fire mobility big time.

If you require any more information please do not hesitate to ask.

Thanks & Kind regards.

Elsie

P.S. If there any any up to date priest specific Blogs or videos / guides to Highmaul they would be greatly appreciated!!

[Spoonman]

U guys seem to have a really low Ilvl tbh. Even tho I spent some gold on buying 665 Epics I had around 655 ilvl Before Highmaul even came out.

Disc priest scales up like crazy. I remember in our Guild, since our priest was late to the game that he was really behind on healing at the start and when he came up to our ilvl at that time, around 670 he suddenly were doing 10k more HPS than everyone else was doing

Other than this just spam PW S spam more tha ure doing. ITS INCREDIBLY OP

I looked at ure log as a whole(all boss fights) and compared it to our disc from our latest logs with same settings.
Ure on about 50% usage on PW S
Our disc was at 75% and so are other top logs if u check that out urself

and dont call urself horrible, ure a competetive healer on the logs as what Im seeing at least

[TwoTapTimmy]

If you're asking about that single fight you linked, then you're healing is alittle low because of activity which was only 84%. Pre stack PW:S on people, unless you're encountering mana issues. In which case get more spirit and use mind bender. I checked you're over all fight's and you did ok. You should be parsing higher then that shaman healer. But honestly if you're group is having healing issues. its because of the other healers, they are very very low hps wise. Everyone should be no less then 95% active healing .

[Nurasu]

Pre stack PW:S on people, unless you're encountering mana issues. In which case get more spirit and use mind bender.

If you're having mana issues, you should be speccing Solace since it completely blows Mindbender out of the water for Disc (and Holy to a lesser degree, since they wouldn't be casting Holy Fire normally). Looking at the logs you posted, much more PW:S should get you headed in the right direction - always be casting something, you should really never have a "free" GCD as Disc or Holy atm.

[Deleted]

My Kargath M log being the only disc in the raid group (Ultraviolenz is my char name):

warcraftlogs.com/reports/B8AygzvRKXGtQwcq#type=healing&source=144

As you can see, I was 660 at the moment (663 now, so not much difference anyways).

I link that just to show you that you need to use PWS a lot more. Disc in kargath is extremely OP. Try to build up evangelism when you have time, and when Iron Bombers are raping your guild mates, just PI+Trinket (or save trinket for another round of debuffs, that's your choice) and SPAM PWS on the people with debuffs. You won't even let the other healers do shit, you will be absorbing everything. Make sure to start shielding as soon as the debuff is applied, or else you will waste some of that absorb.

Ofc there is another things you will be doing, such as Penance/cascade and that stuff. But I feel the most important thing is absorb as much Iron Bomb as you can.

I did overlook the other bosses, and your HPS seems OK. Maybe, in Brackenspore, you can find some time to CoW the rejuvenation mushroom; is really good if your tanks are fine, you will help the raid a lot.

I just want to emphazise that with a proper archangel usage you can boost your healling a ton. Look at this:

warcraftlogs.com/reports/mrYLzdgQcaJ2hX9M#type=healing&fight=34

I have almost 2 million more PWS than the other disc, and only 7 more casts. He also have 8 ilvl more than me. The thing is that I use Archangel better, and on top of that my PWS is doing 7% less overheal. That is because I choose better when and where to use it (I have a little bit more mastery too).

But don't worry, you are doing good.

To finish, I will give you some general things that I think will be usefull:

-Solace at CD (if the raid is not dying ofc haha)
-Track ability timers on bosses, so you can preshield a lot of people
-Track debuffs, so you can... guess what!
-Try to build up evangelism efficiently
-Penance is really good.
-A good PoH with Archangel 100% crit can do wonders (if you don't have mana issues)
-Remeber, you have more things than just PWS... but PWS is REALLY fucking good, so USE IT
-Get used to the "OMG, disci is so dumb. 1 button healer" from the others healers in the raid


Pd: I'm actually playing SP as main spec, so maybe there are things that I'm not doing good. So don't take all the things I said as THE things you have to be doing, just as tips

Pd2: I'm rly sry for my english, is not my language. But I hope you understand what I'm trying to say :P

[PosPosPos]

My Kargath M log being the only disc in the raid group (Ultraviolenz is my char name):

warcraftlogs.com/reports/B8AygzvRKXGtQwcq#type=healing&source=144

As you can see, I was 660 at the moment (663 now, so not much difference anyways).

I link that just to show you that you need to use PWS a lot more. Disc in kargath is extremely OP. Try to build up evangelism when you have time, and when Iron Bombers are raping your guild mates, just PI+Trinket (or save trinket for another round of debuffs, that's your choice) and SPAM PWS on the people with debuffs. You won't even let the other healers do shit, you will be absorbing everything. Make sure to start shielding as soon as the debuff is applied, or else you will waste some of that absorb.

Ofc there is another things you will be doing, such as Penance/cascade and that stuff. But I feel the most important thing is absorb as much Iron Bomb as you can.

I did overlook the other bosses, and your HPS seems OK. Maybe, in Brackenspore, you can find some time to CoW the rejuvenation mushroom; is really good if your tanks are fine, you will help the raid a lot.

I just want to emphazise that with a proper archangel usage you can boost your healling a ton. Look at this:

warcraftlogs.com/reports/mrYLzdgQcaJ2hX9M#type=healing&fight=34

I have almost 2 million more PWS than the other disc, and only 7 more casts. He also have 8 ilvl more than me. The thing is that I use Archangel better, and on top of that my PWS is doing 7% less overheal. That is because I choose better when and where to use it (I have a little bit more mastery too).

But don't worry, you are doing good.

To finish, I will give you some general things that I think will be usefull:

-Solace at CD (if the raid is not dying ofc haha)
-Track ability timers on bosses, so you can preshield a lot of people
-Track debuffs, so you can... guess what!
-Try to build up evangelism efficiently
-Penance is really good.
-A good PoH with Archangel 100% crit can do wonders (if you don't have mana issues)
-Remeber, you have more things than just PWS... but PWS is REALLY fucking good, so USE IT
-Get used to the "OMG, disci is so dumb. 1 button healer" from the others healers in the raid


Pd: I'm actually playing SP as main spec, so maybe there are things that I'm not doing good. So don't take all the things I said as THE things you have to be doing, just as tips

Pd2: I'm rly sry for my english, is not my language. But I hope you understand what I'm trying to say :P

The other disc is being nice and letting you go ham spamming PW:S and running CoW. I don't think you understand he's just letting you top the meters.

[Deleted]

Yes, sure. And that's why I have 137 PWS cast and he 130. He is not spamming PSW at all... I do raid with him, and I know he is the one trying to snipe PSW, especially on tanks lol.

He runs CoW because he always do that, even in Butcher.

Sry bro, maybe other day

[Gatao]

Hello ,from what i saw in the your logs(i just took a quick look becouse im at work) you need to use PW:S more and start using archangel more often and also its guaranted crit proc,I use it almost on cool down unless i need to delay it for a heavy damage phase.
I recommend you leave clarity of will for a tank healing tool you seem to be casting it too much in the raid when you should be using pw:s

I see you took solace talent but you are not using it most of the time ,it might take a while to get used to cast solace on cooldown but its well worth it trust me.

I can give you some tips in that specific encounter if you tell me are you going up in the stands group or you stay down ( i recommend you go up becouse disc is just awsome in there)

[Tahl]

Your archangel usage is extremely low, looking over some pulls there was 1 use at most, you should be using on cooldown and the same goes for solace and penance. It's better to use AA on cd even with 3 stacks of Evangelism instead of keeping it in just in case. Make sure to use the EEA buff, preferably while AA is still up.
Don't just mindlessly spam CoW, chain casting it when there isn't high tank damage incoming is a waste of mana instead PW:S and maybe build up some Evangelism stacks if the raid isn't taking too much damage.
Unfortunately I can't see the screenshots because it says the album is private so I can't make any comments about that.

[Aemi]

Your archangel usage is extremely low, looking over some pulls there was 1 use at most, you should be using on cooldown and the same goes for solace and penance. It's better to use AA on cd even with 3 stacks of Evangelism instead of keeping it in just in case. Make sure to use the EEA buff, preferably while AA is still up.
Don't just mindlessly spam CoW, chain casting it when there isn't high tank damage incoming is a waste of mana instead PW:S and maybe build up some Evangelism stacks if the raid isn't taking too much damage.
Unfortunately I can't see the screenshots because it says the album is private so I can't make any comments about that.

The album should now be public! Sorry about that!!

I am tracking solace through WA (UI Screenshow should hopefully show this now) and i am aware my uptime is low. Best I achieved that raid was 62.92% 16 casts.
Am I right in thinking over a 3:48m fight that I could have cast it 22 times if I used it on CD? Should I disregard pretty much everything in place of a solace cast?

I notice a lot of people here are mentioning my uptime on Archangel .. I will sort some WeakAura out to help me with that, thank you.

Tahl Mentioned here (see bold in quote); That its better to use AA even with <5 stacks? What's peoples thoughts on this?

Specificity I feel bad on Brackenspore and the Mythic Kargath.

Brackenspore:
I am tank healing priority. Our Paladin has been un-available for some time now so i am feeling a void here. However I struggle to find anything other to so than baby sit the tanks? I maybe throw PW: S out before the AoE ability but that's it.. any advise here?

Mythic Kargath:
Feel I need to get a hang on the movement while still doing what I need to. Solace & penance on CD and use more PW: S. Normally I go up to.. but our Resto shaman complained he was struggling to heal with the amount of moving involved below. So we switched, Thoughts?

Thank you for the people who have posted so far. Great help!!

[Aemi]

Hey guys & gals,

I though this would be better here since its pretty much about making me better! Ego booost haha..

So last night we tried Imperator Mar'gok ; https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CaQpGKbrJ27WH9h8

I sucked massively on mines. Like massively... So i have a weak aura now to help with that (I'm personally blaming it on a bad night and being tired ).
A contribution to the mind deaths aswel IMO is my overly tracking PW: Solace and working on my archangel up time. How was that in general? With regards to Solace I struggle to get above 60% uptime. Whats are you guys hitting regularly? 80%+ ??

Any specific advise on Mar'gok? Or the points from the post above?

Thanks again!

[Hooligun]

Your PW:S seems a little low. Increase your active time by always using solace on CD and Penance. Don't be afraid to use that cascade and PoH even with only a couple of stacks on Archangel. Do not save your Archangel for that oh shit moment. Use Archangel more. If you are doing nothing make sure you are smiting. Your active time should be higher.

Good Luck

[drivec]

he died near the end which accounts for 5% of his miss uptime

your healing looks fine. sure there are a couple things you could do better but nothing thats keeping you from progressing into harder modes.

if your raid is failing its from people failing from mechanics.

have to try and keep solace usage high. archangels for bonus to heals and never stop casting.