How many ilvls does the 4 piece make up for?

[Fascinate]

I have a mix of 860-870 tier gear, what ivll gear would i need for it to be a dps increase? I have all 880+ gear from the broken shore vendor, but losing that 4 piece is so painful lol. Should i just roll with lfr tier gear til tomb? I do around 550-600k single target dps at 886 ilvl.

[Deleted]

4 piece is worth any ilvl pretty much, never lose 4p.

Also, if you do 550-600k single target as shadow with 886 ilvl I'm impressed.

[Fascinate]

Ya 550-600 is about what i do usually, this is my toon:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...scinate/simple

I actually thought that was a bit low lol. I just got the leggo helm today, before i was using the ring that spread dots so my ST should be a bit higher now too. I dont read guides or anything, i just figured i want to be in voidform as much as i can and chose my talents that way. If anyone sees anything goofy feel free to comment.

[imjustzach]

I don't know the exact amount of ilvl difference but the t19 bonus is incredibly strong, especially at higher levels of mastery. I would say that unless you're dropping over 40 ilvls worth of gear, you're probably coming out ahead with the 4p.

On a side note, how does Auspicious Spirits feel vs San'layn? I know the usual build is to stack mastery and run SL since it synergizes with 4p bonus but I wonder if the extra insanity from AS makes up for it.

PS. If you're pulling 550k-600k single target that's really impressive, especially if you've never even read a guide. For your item level, that would mean you'd be in the top 10 in the world on all of the single target fights in NH if you were parsing. (I only checked LFR/Normal since you've haven't done heroic or mythic yet)

[Deleted]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...st/#bracket=17

Those are my logs for a 892 SP, so if you do the dps you claim to do without reading guides I'm fucking impressed.

[Almaric]

I'm curious, what do you pull that dps on since you dont raid? Is that some kind of questing number? Cuz for that gear it's pretty unrealistic.

[Fascinate]

Ya i got those numbers mostly from LFR. I actually did a normal mode with towelliee the streamer and i was top 5 on almost all of the bosses, and there were people with much higher ilvl than me in there, i basically got a pity invite cause i was 886 lol. I can assure you i do do 550-600k on guldan for example, ill maybe record a guldan LFR later.

As for auspicious spirits, im running it because i have 7/7 traits, just worked out that way with the relics i got. Given the fact 31%+ of my damage is void bolt on ST fights AS made a lot more sense to me than sanlayn.

[healme]

Ya i got those numbers mostly from LFR. I actually did a normal mode with towelliee the streamer and i was top 5 on almost all of the bosses, and there were people with much higher ilvl than me in there, i basically got a pity invite cause i was 886 lol. I can assure you i do do 550-600k on guldan for example, ill maybe record a guldan LFR later.

As for auspicious spirits, im running it because i have 7/7 traits, just worked out that way with the relics i got. Given the fact 31%+ of my damage is void bolt on ST fights AS made a lot more sense to me than sanlayn.

Guldan isn't really ST as you can proc ToF often in the fight, also with the adds at the start you can get big numbers.

You're improved a lot in 2 months

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...n=1&bracket=-1

ST target fight would be Krous

[Jullyx]

As for auspicious spirits, im running it because i have 7/7 traits, just worked out that way with the relics i got. Given the fact 31%+ of my damage is void bolt on ST fights AS made a lot more sense to me than sanlayn.

AS and SL are pretty close overall and both viable.
AS means going for a more crit heavy gear set.
San'layn means going for a more mastery heavy gear set.
In both situations, haste should be around 10k.

Especially with bracers, SL and a mastery heavy set will be superior in most situations. Think how much damage void bolt would do if you had a lot more mastery
As long as you are geared more towards AS (which you are) it is makes more sense to use that though.

When it comes to 4p vs ilvl, that would probably be one of the rare occations I'd use a sim.

[Deleted]

As I recall, it was around 8% increase, but i'm not sure how accurate it was, since it was on reddit.

[Alvito]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...st/#bracket=17

Those are my logs for a 892 SP, so if you do the dps you claim to do without reading guides I'm fucking impressed.

Well somebody logged them https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...t/#partition=1, those numbers don't support this, LFR or not. I am assuming they mean in a heroic 5 man with a 30% buff.

[Deleted]

Well somebody logged them https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...t/#partition=1, those numbers don't support this, LFR or not. I am assuming they mean in a heroic 5 man with a 30% buff.

If he really does 550-600k on Guldan with 886 ilvl with haste and mastery that low and in normal conditions (ie soaking bonds for example) he is Viklund's second coming.

And to respond to the initial answer, even LFR pieces are worth as long as you keep the 4pc (maybe if you got like multiple 910 pieces with perfect stats but I'm not even sure about that). Given our overall lack of mobility, the bonus is really important. Plus the dps increase obviously.

[healme]

Well somebody logged them https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...t/#partition=1, those numbers don't support this, LFR or not. I am assuming they mean in a heroic 5 man with a 30% buff.

To be fair those were back in Feb when he was 875 ilvl and pre 7.2, more I think he thinks guldan is a ST fight when it really isn't.

BTW, I'm not having a go, I'm far from a perfect spriest even at 900 ilvl apparently

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...71432/latest/#

[Fascinate]

Ya if i didnt have 105% VT relics id go with SL lol.

Oh i recorded a gul'dan, 568k. I didnt even think about krosus, gul'dan was first ST that popped into my head but good point about keeping twist of fate up. Nvm the mess ups i usually dont get hit by anything, i was oddly nervous pressing the record button to show my dps lol!: (i also am probably wrong on when to use haste buff, i just use it with void torrent)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs18n3101Q8

Actually enjoying spriest right now, lookin forward to tomb

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If he really does 550-600k on Guldan with 886 ilvl with haste and mastery that low and in normal conditions (ie soaking bonds for example) he is Viklund's second coming.

And to respond to the initial answer, even LFR pieces are worth as long as you keep the 4pc (maybe if you got like multiple 910 pieces with perfect stats but I'm not even sure about that). Given our overall lack of mobility, the bonus is really important. Plus the dps increase obviously.

Well this is LFR lol.I am uploading a video now. Im sure the longer normal+heroic etc id be lower, but then again there were some bad DPS in this grp (DH right below me is 900 ilvl) so the fight lasted longer than it really should have, and my DPS may have even been higher.

Edit: Actually in the towelliee pug i think i did 610k on normal, so fight length maybe isnt that big of a factor.

[Fascinate]

I posted video showing i do that DPS and no one replied lol. Like 6 people said they dont believe it, so am i amazing or is auspicious spirits better than you guys give it credit for ?

[arr0gance]

I posted video showing i do that DPS and no one replied lol. Like 6 people said they dont believe it, so am i amazing or is auspicious spirits better than you guys give it credit for ?

It depends. Do you want an actual response or more empty platitudes from internet strangers to fellate your ego?

[Fascinate]

It depends. Do you want an actual response or more empty platitudes from internet strangers to fellate your ego?

Well im not exactly gloating if you kept up with the thread. Like i said i did between 550-600k at 886 ilvl and people didnt believe me (some even seemed offended that i would make that claim or something), i posted a video showing i did and got no responses lol.

A dude even said "thats pretty unrealistic". Sooo either i am amazing, or AS is better than people say it is.

[arr0gance]

A dude even said "thats pretty unrealistic". Sooo either i am amazing, or AS is better than people say it is.

Or it's the fucking LFR and nobody gives a shit about you, your shitty DPS or 480p videos of you in the LFR on your pathetic YouTube channel with 12 subscribers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Fascinate]

Or it's the fucking LFR and nobody gives a shit about you, your shitty DPS or 480p videos of you in the LFR on your pathetic YouTube channel with 12 subscribers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lol wow what an angry lil fella.

1. I am not bragging, i only posted the video to show i am in fact doing the DPS i am claiming.
2. Maybe this shows AS is better at lower gear levels than sanlayn?
3. Its not my youtube channel, fred flintstone is the sole owner and proprietor
4. Its 720p 60 FPS, notice how smooth it is?
5. I said these numbers were from LFR from the get go. (people knew this, and still didnt believe me)
6. Why are you so mad?

[Deleted]

Well, you didn't help soaking at all, you didn't get hit by a bond and you stayed in the storm (at 7.06 on the video). When you got targeted by 2 flames of sargeras, you were in voidform and didn't lose dps. Still very good numbers nonetheless, but irrealistic if you don't ignore the strat.