Is Anduin implying that the Horde did not help against the Legion?

[Maljinwo]

Anduin Wrynn: We all know the Alliance incurred heavy losses in the war against the Legion. And even now, the world bleeds in the aftermath of Sargeras's final strike.
Meanwhile, the Horde musters its forces and arms for war. Their aggression must not go unanswered.

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but is Anduin claiming that the Alliance took most of the damage in the war?
I'm not blaming him. I haven't seen a horde character since Suramar but... Do you think it's now established in Lore that the Horde didn't do much or am I just misinterpreting his dialogue?

[Friendlyimmolation]

Could be for all we know, or it’s like wotlk all over again and they say fifty thousand alliance troops died, but then they never mention it or show signs of it again

[faithbane]

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but is Anduin claiming that the Alliance took most of the damage in the war?
I'm not blaming him. I haven't seen a horde character since Suramar but... Do you think it's now established in Lore that the Horde didn't do much or am I just misinterpreting his dialogue?

Anduin is whining.. what else is new... But seriously, I think the he is just trying to find an excuse about being reluctant to go to war while others are eager.

[Deleted]

Bah. The only lore implication here is that the high king still believes that the horde didn't do much after the broken shore events. Not gonna blame him. The factions lost. Class orders handled the defense. Khadgar doesn't have the role of pre-Ttheramore Jaina, Velen has his own issues and the nelf couple are busy doing nelf staff.

[Maljinwo]

Bah. The only lore implication here is that the high king still believes that the horde didn't do much after the broken shore events. Not gonna blame him. The factions lost. Class orders handled the defense. Khadgar doesn't have the role of pre-Ttheramore Jaina, Velen has his own issues and the nelf couple are busy doing nelf staff.

I can see Velen just chillin' after milennia.
"A war? Oh... Okay I guess"

[Friendlyimmolation]

“What’s up Horde?”

“Chillin, killin”

“True, true”

[Samin]

No.

The "Meanwhile" refers to the "aftermath of Sargeras's final strike" - not the fight against the Legion.

[Deleted]

Well its true tho, i never seen any Horde on the broken shore / Argus outside of a few Forsaken and Blood elfs. Kalimdor never got involved.
I walk on Argus but i feel like i am a drifter on a alien planet asking myself: why am i here?

[Jalham]

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but is Anduin claiming that the Alliance took most of the damage in the war?
I'm not blaming him. I haven't seen a horde character since Suramar but... Do you think it's now established in Lore that the Horde didn't do much or am I just misinterpreting his dialogue?

I think its implied that a lot of alliance soldiers died with varian in the broken shore, since the horde had time to withdraw while the alliance got attacked from 2 sides and barely escaped. Even if u do dailies in broken shore it shows a lot of alliance soldiers dead there.

[Wyrt]

What the fuck? The only time the Alliance did shit was when they stupidly got their asses kicked on the Broken Shore. The rest of the time they were off fucking around with Sylvanas. Meanwhile Velen and the draenei carried the whole fucking war on their own with minimal help from the Alliance(help that was matched by the Horde), if 2 elves can even be considered help.

Anduin can go fuck himself. No wonder Velen's sitting in the corner looking pissed as fuck in the embassy building.

[Lochton]

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but is Anduin claiming that the Alliance took most of the damage in the war?
I'm not blaming him. I haven't seen a horde character since Suramar but... Do you think it's now established in Lore that the Horde didn't do much or am I just misinterpreting his dialogue?

I think that is more how you read it. As a leader of your own faction, you shouldn't be talking about the enemy faction and if they experienced any problems. Your goal is your people, and the Horde is ready for war. So, I think it is more on how you read it. A little like the broken shore cutscene, it is depending on how it is interpreted.

[Deleted]

What the fuck? The only time the Alliance did shit was when they stupidly got their asses kicked on the Broken Shore. The rest of the time they were off fucking around with Sylvanas. Meanwhile Velen and the draenei carried the whole fucking war on their own with minimal help from the Alliance(help that was matched by the Horde).

Anduin can go fuck himself. No wonder Velen's sitting in the corner looking pissed as fuck in the embassy building.

Yup I am glad I am not the only one who thought this. The way Velen is sitting there it seems like he does not have time for this nonsense. XD

[Deleted]

Il'gynoth: "The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies he will offer you."

[Faroth]

What the fuck? The only time the Alliance did shit was when they stupidly got their asses kicked on the Broken Shore. The rest of the time they were off fucking around with Sylvanas. Meanwhile Velen and the draenei carried the whole fucking war on their own with minimal help from the Alliance(help that was matched by the Horde), if 2 elves can even be considered help.

Anduin can go fuck himself. No wonder Velen's sitting in the corner looking pissed as fuck in the embassy building.

I guess the night elf and blood elf armies never showed up to help liberate Suramar and pave the way to Gul'dan's defeat then? Or do you just pretend that had nothing to do with fighting the Legion?

[bewbew]

The way I understood that line, he's saying that the Horde still has it's armies prepared for battle even after the conclusion of the events in Argus, so he has to fight back.

It's what the exert from the novel also hinted to us. That Sylvanas didn't disband the Horde's army but instead prepared for further combat.

[Utigarde]

Pretty this is from a perspective of the beginning of the upcoming novel, in which we do know Sylvanas is preparing for war after Sargeras' strike.

[Florena]

No I don't think he is saying the horde dind't fight the Legion, nor do I think he's 'whining' He's stating facts.

1. The Alliance DID take heavy losses including his own father.
2. The world IS bleeding, literally, after Sargeras' attack.
3. The Horde mustering forces matches up with what little we've gotten of the new novel so far with Sylvannas keeping the army formed up and having plans for Stormwind.

Nothing unexpected in that quote the TC linked.

[Aliven]

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but is Anduin claiming that the Alliance took most of the damage in the war?
I'm not blaming him. I haven't seen a horde character since Suramar but... Do you think it's now established in Lore that the Horde didn't do much or am I just misinterpreting his dialogue?

Did you see any horde forces? No?

[Florena]

What the fuck? The only time the Alliance did shit was when they stupidly got their asses kicked on the Broken Shore. The rest of the time they were off fucking around with Sylvanas. Meanwhile Velen and the draenei carried the whole fucking war on their own with minimal help from the Alliance(help that was matched by the Horde), if 2 elves can even be considered help.

Anduin can go fuck himself. No wonder Velen's sitting in the corner looking pissed as fuck in the embassy building.

You do know that Velen is Alliance right, as are the Draenei that made the Vindicaar? Cooperating with members of the horde sure, but it's funny you mention one of the racial leaders of the Alliance in the same setnence you say the Alliance did 'shit.'

[Shibito]

The way I understood that line, he's saying that the Horde still has it's armies prepared for battle even after the conclusion of the events in Argus, so he has to fight back.

It's what the exert from the novel also hinted to us. That Sylvanas didn't disband the Horde's army but instead prepared for further combat.

why would you disband your army when another faction is so hostile towards you?