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    Angry Isn't Blizzard racist and sexist with this "diversity" thing going on?

    From a letter from Bobby Kotick we can deduct that Blizzard is going to force more attention towards hiring women and non binary people. (I have no idea what the last one means).

    But I find it funny that lack of diversity of the development team aswell as Blizzard employees is the sole blame for the stagnation of World of Warcraft, even though the team that started wasn't at all diverse in skin tones and gender.

    But we can theoretically prove that the "diverse" team as of now is producing a lesser product than the old guard of Blizzard Entertainment who were made up of simply caucasian men. Simply put because the game is withering and declining more steadily with each expansion they seem to put out.

    But Blizzard isn't technically that diverse at all.
    I find it racist and sexist that Blizzard Entertainment and Bobby Kotick assume that white men in its entirety all think alike or that we are a hivemind with the same opinion. I thought that diversity meant different experiences and ideas coming to the table but here on they actually double down on their stance of hiring quotas and filling up statistics.

    As if every white man on this planet is faced with the same kind of upbringing and same background.

    Does Blizzard think that every white man, every caucasian, where Anglo Saxons, Germanic, Slavic, Nordic, Meditereans and others all come from the same background, the same culture, the same upbringing and the same thinking? Is Blizzard even aware that across the globe there lies an entire continent made up of white people with different nations, traditions, cultural upbringings and the like?

    Is this some kind of backwards American mindset I'm seeing here?

    And now from Ion's interview, and I quote:

    diversity is good for the game, we don't want this game to become niche for a small audience
    is really fucking ironic considering the game is being butchered left and right by a small, vocal community on Twitter.

    But I don't see any diversity present at Blizzard at all. Nor will they fix it. They all share the same political views, they all share the same mindset on their Twitter. They all share the same opinions on real life issues. They all seem to claim to be pretty open yet they barely, if at all go outside their hugbox on Twitter and will block people for merely giving feedback. They do not engage discussion at all. All they do is strut around like a winner on Twitter and circlejerk with eachother.

    Mods, leave this post up if you aren't scared and are open for discussion, else you can censor it and put it hidden and swallowed in a "megathread" where discussion buries it.

    Blizzard Entertainment can go eat shit.
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    It is. This whole diversity thing is just shifting discrimination that may or may not have been there (in blizz's case it was) from women or minorities to men.
    The proper thing to have been said in that letter should have been "We will enforce the same opportunities and rewards for everyone regardless of gender, race or culture if we failed to do so in the past."

    The old guard of blizzard, just like any other software development company out there consisted out of white men, because those were the vast majority of developers, you couldn't just hire many female developers when only 1% of the developers were women. While now there are more, the majority are still men.

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    yes. it is. these types of policies always are racist/sexist.

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    The level of victim complex whining here is truly a sight to behold.
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    The only way to combat racism is to stop talking about it and judge people on their merits and their actions. If you try to force diversity you will have no choice but to make judgments and decisions based on physical characteristics. We can acknowledge there are racial disparities but there is no way someone or corporate entity can make those decisions unbiased. Merit is the only correct answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    The level of victim complex whining here is truly a sight to behold.
    Speak for yourself. The topic of forcing diversity vs meritocracy is a very important one that needs more discussion as it’s relevant to more than just wow, it seems to be a core topic in our daily lives now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holybeatdown View Post
    The only way to combat racism is to stop talking about it and judge people on their merits and their actions. If you try to force diversity you will have no choice but to make judgments and decisions based on physical characteristics. We can acknowledge there are racial disparities but there is no way someone or corporate entity can make those decisions unbiased. Merit is the only correct answer.
    Shoving racism under the table and pretending it doesn't exist doesn't solve anything.
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    There is no such thing as racism and sexism. The races and the sexes are different from one another. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to distinguish between them.

    Words like "racism" and "sexism" are tools to control people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holybeatdown View Post
    Speak for yourself. The topic of forcing diversity vs meritocracy is a very important one that needs more discussion as it’s relevant to more than just wow, it seems to be a core topic in our daily lives now.
    Diversity creates meritocracy. They aren't opposed concepts. They are contingent concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhawk spy View Post
    There is no such thing as racism and sexism. The races and the sexes are different from one another. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to distinguish between them.

    Words like "racism" and "sexism" are tools to control people.
    Oh man, we better tell all the neo-nazis that racism doesn't exist.
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    "We can’t just open up a position, take the first couple dozen resumes, look through them, and pick someone out of that pile, because we may just get a couple dozen white male resumes,"

    Imagine if the mentioned group was literally any other than "white males". Ion would've been fired the moment this interview was published.
    It's perfectly fine now to say you will have second thoughts about hiring people just because they are white lmaoooo xD
    Because some things are just worth fighting for.

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    If it mostly applies to widening recruiting so they have a more diverse qualified talent pool to hire from then no it isn't.
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    The double standards are often astounding with the diversity and inclusive arguments, never realizing how they are the ones doing the majority of the discriminating, always pushing the race crap instead of just treating everyone the same, even favoring made up groups of people who ignore basic biological facts. Then to turn around and say they want to avoid catering to niche audiences, while now doing exactly that in such an obvious and forced manner, is so pathetic it would be insulting if not for their clear ignorance toward their own hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostHate View Post
    "We can’t just open up a position, take the first couple dozen resumes, look through them, and pick someone out of that pile, because we may just get a couple dozen white male resumes,"

    Imagine if the mentioned group was literally any other than "white males". Ion would've been fired the moment this interview was published.
    It's perfectly fine now to say you will have second thoughts about hiring people just because they are white lmaoooo xD
    Except that's exactly what happens at colleges all the time: They have to give favorable treatment to white men because white men are underrepresented on colleges. And nobody on the right whines and complains about it. I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    The double standards are often astounding with the diversity and inclusive arguments, never realizing how they are the ones doing the majority of the discriminating, always pushing the race crap instead of just treating everyone the same, even favoring made up groups of people who ignore basic biological facts. Then to turn around and say they want to avoid catering to niche audiences, while now doing exactly that in such an obvious and forced manner, is so pathetic it would be insulting if not for their clear ignorance toward their own hypocrisy.
    Nobody is ignoring basic biological facts, except the people who think sex is binary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Shoving racism under the table and pretending it doesn't exist doesn't solve anything.
    I prefer to not be discriminatory... and not this "reverse racism" nonsense.

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    why whitelist is still a thing? why we cant renamed it as whatlist? i feel offended asf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    I prefer to not be discriminatory... and not this "reverse racism" nonsense.
    Diversity prevents discrimination.
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    It's not really suprising, but always quite showing how deep, disgusting and stupid this forum can out itself. But going with most entry dates, people 2009 is over so leave your gamer caves for once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Mods, leave this post up if you aren't scared and are open for discussion, else you can censor it and put it hidden and swallowed in a "megathread" where discussion buries it.
    "Isn't it MORE sexist & racist to do anything about a huge majority of white straight men we employ?" We're supposed to respect this argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    The proper thing to have been said in that letter should have been "We will enforce the same opportunities and rewards for everyone regardless of gender, race or culture if we failed to do so in the past."
    If? The way you rationalize that the status quo will somehow fix itself is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Diversity prevents discrimination.
    Forced diversity is discrimination in its very nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    "Isn't it MORE sexist & racist to do anything about a huge majority of white straight men we employ?" We're supposed to respect this argument?
    So basically in your eyes, white straight men can't be interested or passionate about things and we should do our best to annihilate this audience as much as possible? What would your reaction be to other entertainment that spoke more to Japanese men or Congolese men?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    Forced diversity is discrimination in its very nature.
    Which is more likely to discriminate, a hiring panel of people who share all of the same backgrounds and personal characteristics, or a hiring panel made up of people of varied backgrounds and personal characteristics?

    We both know the answer, and we also both know you will proceed to make an excuse to not provide the obvious answer.
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