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    Rank the hardest Wrath raid encounters

    How’s everyone think Light of Dawn stacks up against Alone in the Darkness?

    Oh and is ICC buff gonna work the same?


    Examples:
    Lich King HM 10/25
    Putricide HM 10/25
    Listening to Sindragosa’s voice acting your pathetic magic beetttttrrraaaaayyyyssssss you
    Bone dude, Lich, Gunship Battle, Saurfang, Umm…goregrind and rotspew…Val’anyr princes, Blood Queen Lana’thel, Valithria Dreamwalker

    I refuse to acknowledge the existence of any raid that may or may not have existed between Ulduar and ICC.

    Yogg 0, Yogg 1
    Algalon
    Firefighter Mimiron
    Knock Knock Knock on wood Freya
    Thorim
    Hodir
    Auriaya (cats), Council of Iron, Kologarn (arms/head), XT-002, Ignis the Furnace Master, Razorscale, Flame Leviathan

    Sarth + 3
    Malygos

    Even my terrible guild could clear Naxx so it was pure faceroll.
    Last edited by garicasha; 2022-06-30 at 10:38 AM.
    Raid bosses will always be very similar so long as encounter design requires DPS to always be pumping 100%.

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    Any answer other than yogg 0 is the wrong one. Firefighter pre nerf get an honourable mention.

    Quote Originally Posted by garicasha View Post
    Oh and is ICC buff gonna work the same?
    Doubt it. Blizzard's already butchered the game by introducing tons of unnecessary changes.

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    Yogg 0, no contest.

    Nothing was even in the same ballpark.

    After that it's Firefighter, and then hLK25 I guess, which though a fine encounter was far less difficult than people like to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    Yogg 0, no contest.

    Nothing was even in the same ballpark.

    After that it's Firefighter, and then hLK25 I guess, which though a fine encounter was far less difficult than people like to think.
    I'm honestly not sure where Algalon would fit. Both Algalon and LK are just heavily distorted by the limited attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theonewholurks View Post
    Any answer other than yogg 0 is the wrong one. Firefighter pre nerf get an honourable mention.



    Doubt it. Blizzard's already butchered the game by introducing tons of unnecessary changes.
    So your evidence for the icc being nerfed is that blizzard is going to increase the difficulty of Naxxramas? Flawless logic mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by storn206 View Post
    So your evidence for the icc being nerfed is that blizzard is going to increase the difficulty of Naxxramas? Flawless logic mate
    I'm talking about in general you fucking troglodyte. You know... Like paid character boosts for one...

    Presumptuous twat.
    Last edited by Theonewholurks; 2022-06-30 at 09:09 AM.

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    Yogg 0 and Firefighter were pretty tough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I'm honestly not sure where Algalon would fit. Both Algalon and LK are just heavily distorted by the limited attempts.
    Yeah Algalon was mostly a joke. Do you have tanks who know how to press mitigation buttons Y/N? Congrats, spend some attempts and you'll kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    Yeah Algalon was mostly a joke. Do you have tanks who know how to press mitigation buttons Y/N? Congrats, spend some attempts and you'll kill it.
    I mean I remember we did not struggle but we also were completely geared by that time. Certainly felt easier than Firefighter.

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    Probably Yogg 0 keepers, but even that is going to be rolled over the day it comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean I remember we did not struggle but we also were completely geared by that time. Certainly felt easier than Firefighter.
    It's MUCH easier, largely because the only mechanic in the fight is "keep tanks alive". Competent tanks and good healers make it a faceroll, DPS barely needs to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I'm honestly not sure where Algalon would fit. Both Algalon and LK are just heavily distorted by the limited attempts.
    This. A 50 fight limit would make bosses like Halondrus be 2-3 month situations unless the WF guys geared multiple teams for attempts.
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean I remember we did not struggle but we also were completely geared by that time. Certainly felt easier than Firefighter.
    You're so full of it, mate. LMAO.

    And how do you have over 1k posts since joining earlier this year? This community has been dead for years now.

    Touch grass please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I'm honestly not sure where Algalon would fit. Both Algalon and LK are just heavily distorted by the limited attempts.
    Algalon, sure, LK, not so much.

    LK HC is early on a beast because of gear requirements, which will likely be quite an issue into Wotlk Classic if they skip out on staggering ICC (which is likely considering they skipped out on doing that in SWP).

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    Yogg 0 and LK HC before the increasing dmg/heal buff.

    I doubt many people here killed LK before the increasing buff.

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    Pre nerfs flame leviathan 4 tower 10 man

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    I loved Flame Leviathan, probably because I was in a bad guild but it was so much dang fun like launching people up on him and then having the little bikes rescue them and run the little pots around…

    I’ve wasted far too much of my life on Warcraft but I wouldn’t take back one second of time spent in Ulduar.

    Like many I never did Ulduar hard modes at gear level, although something tells me 0% HM LK 25 is the hardest, although I suppose you can’t outgear sanity loss on Yogg.

    Part of the reason I was asking because I’m trying to pick what class to play, and I remember warlock being great to get out of val’kyr on LK.

    So purely guessing off shtuff I’ve seen on forums:

    0% HM LK 25
    Yogg 0
    Algalon?
    0% HM Putricide? I remember a lot of guilds stuck on him
    Yogg 1
    Firefighter
    30% HM LK 25
    Knock Knock Knock On Wood


    Sarth + 3
    Jump Boss on Thaddius
    Last edited by garicasha; 2022-06-30 at 10:29 AM.
    Raid bosses will always be very similar so long as encounter design requires DPS to always be pumping 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theonewholurks View Post
    Any answer other than yogg 0 is the wrong one. Firefighter pre nerf get an honourable mention.



    Doubt it. Blizzard's already butchered the game by introducing tons of unnecessary changes.
    This, though LK 25 heroic might outrank firefighter.
    This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
    Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.

    Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.

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    Flame Leviathan 25 PUG

    /thread

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    Actually wasn’t Hodir hardmode kinda nerve-wracking, trying to figure out if you’re gonna time it or have to immediately Kill DPS FULL Stop with 10 sec left?
    Raid bosses will always be very similar so long as encounter design requires DPS to always be pumping 100%.

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